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Online Casinos in general: 5.3% taxes are destroying online casinos and therefore need to be abolished urgently (Page 3)

Topic created on 05th Mar. 2022 | Page: 3 of 6 | Answers: 52 | Views: 7,497
Emx81
Top Member
Who still plays at Videoslots? Except that they pay out quickly, the store has become so bad. Rtp very low, every spin no matter if 0.01€ or 1€ always tax deduction, there is x2 ripped off. Win / play time equal to 0.

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Krabbenburger
Experienced
zocker1414 wrote on 05/03/2022 at 20:41

What alternatives are there for the protection of minors, which is just times regulation? Normally, this is the responsibility of parents,

something to control, or regulating intervene.

It's sad enough that the state has to do this
And how else is it supposed to do it?

If the porn site does not show understanding, or is not willing to compromise, it will be blocked. You can do the same in any other
european country the same way. To think that this is only possible in North Korea is a utopia.

Of course, the protection of minors is the task of parents.
What makes you think that the state has to do this?
Your statement that would be the same in any other country of the EU is also wrong. Internet locks are an absolute rarity in countries of the EU.
Apart from the fact that it is pointless, because there are 10,000 websites with identical content.
Your last sentence makes no sense at all. Maybe you should google the meaning of the word " utopia "
Or was that a Freudian slip and North Korea is a utopia for you ?
There the state really takes care of everything .

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z****4
Krabbenburger wrote on 06/03/2022 at 00:22
Of course, youth protection is the task of parents .
What makes you think that the state must do that?
Your statement that would be the same in any other country of the EU is also wrong. Internet locks are an absolute rarity in countries of the EU.
Apart from the fact that it is pointless, because there are 10,000 websites with identical content.
Your last sentence makes no sense at all. Maybe you should google the meaning of the word " utopia "
Or was that a Freudian slip and North Korea is a utopia for you ?
There the state really takes care of everything .

The CPC regulation of the EU regulates the blocking of pages. So it should hardly be used by Germany.


And years before that, the ECJ had already deemed website blocking legitimate if it protected the rights of
Consumers are protected. Example is kinox.to

And since the protection of minors is also a high priority, and the operator of the site does not react, it is pointless to speak of
To speak of censorship. All that would have to be done is to install youth protection

The state has to take over when parents don't care and it is discovered how easy it is for young people to get porn
young people can get porn. The other sites will also be blocked if they do not cooperate
cooperate.

But I can always blame the others, of course.

And it is applied in other European countries as well, as the USA has been doing for years.
Please inform correctly!

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xaan2012
Amateur
Krabbenburger wrote on 05.03.2022 at 18:15
The casino does not make a loss when it passes the tax on to the player .
There are 2 ways it can do that .
Either directly deduct 5.3% from the bet or the casino reduces the RTP .
An example: Tipico does not charge a direct fee but has very low RTPs, say 90%.
At N1 there is the direct fee deduction of 5.3% but the slots have a higher RTP on a game basis. Let's say the slot that runs at Tipico with 90% RTP, runs at N1 with 95.3% but they deduct 5.3% on each spin (so 95.3 -5.3 = 90%). The result is that you play in both casinos with 90% RTP.
It does not matter if it is collected by fees or if the RTP of the slot is lowered. The result is a very low RTP where players lose more than double compared to before.

Since it bothers you ( rightly ) I wonder why you play in casinos with low RTP or fee ?
There are countless casinos where you can gamble without this crap .


N1 takes taxes and still has underground RTPs that in 95% of all cases, game rounds and sessions do NOT come close to specified RTps.

The 95.3% I would call deadspinqoute....

if you play as a lowRoler and must first Deposit 100 to see times RTP that comes close to 80%, rather bad and is actually demonstrably consistently so^^

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Krabbenburger
Experienced
zocker1414 wrote on 06/03/2022 at 11:22 AM
The CPC regulation of the EU regulates the blocking of pages. So it is unlikely to be used by Germany.


And years before, the ECJ has held website blocking to be legitimate if it protects the rights of
Consumers are protected. Example is kinox.to

And since the protection of minors is also a high priority, and the operator of the site does not react, it is pointless to speak of
To speak of censorship. All that would have to be done is to install youth protection

The state has to take over when parents don't care and it is discovered how easy it is for young people to get porn
young people can get porn. The other sites will also be blocked if they do not cooperate
cooperate.

But I can always blame the others, of course.

And it is applied in other European countries as well, as it has been for years by the USA.
Please inform correctly!

You throw things together here that do not fit together.
Of course, websites with criminal content e.g. Kinox.to be blocked (copyright violations).
That is something completely different than a website because of youth protection to block.
If this limit was exceeded from youth protection suddenly paternalism of adults.
And this limit is exceeded Germany for some time.

Are you really so state-believing that you think it makes sense to close one of maybe 10,000 porn sites?

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z****4
If you have a store and you constantly sell alcohol to young people, you will get warnings,
Fines, and eventually your store will be shut down. It's a completely normal process.

You have to verify your age on so many non-pornographic sites that it is almost idiotic to discuss it
to discuss about it. Protection of minors is a good thing. The state has fulfilled its mandate, and
whether the young people get porn differently (of course they do), the state can not care for the time being.

You argue like: you can get all kinds of drugs illegally, so the state doesn't need to interfere
interfere.


You are also a believer in the state, otherwise you would be in jail or emigrated

Apart from that, you are constantly patronized, even as an adult

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Krabbenburger
Experienced
zocker1414 wrote on 06.03.2022 at 12:57 pm: If you have a store, and constantly sell alcohol to young people, then you get warnings,
Fines, and eventually you will be shut down. It's a very normal process.

You have to verify your age on so many non-pornographic sites that it is almost idiotic to discuss it
to discuss about it. Protection of minors is a good thing. The state has fulfilled its mandate, and
if the young people get porn differently (of course they do), the state can not care for the time being.

You argue like: you can get all kinds of drugs illegally, so the state doesn't need to interfere
interfere.


You are also a believer in the state, otherwise you would be in jail or emigrated

Apart from that, you are constantly patronized, even as an adult.

You do it again you compare drugs ( something illegal ) with youth protection.
This is completely wrong and misses the point .
. The site is not closed only for German visitors
From any other EU country you can visit the site. Only Germany not.
To stay with your store comparison would be as if the store had a sign in front German may not enter but everyone else already.
And of course you can criticize this state and find many things bad without being in jail or emigrating
This is really complete nonsense.

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z****4
Krabbenburger wrote on 06.03.2022 at 13:21
You do it again you compare drugs ( something illegal ) with youth protection.
This is totally wrong and misses the point .
. The site is not closed only for German visitors
From any other EU country you can visit the site . Only Germany not.
To stay with your store comparison would be as if the store had a sign in front German may not enter but everyone else already.
And of course you can criticize this state and find many things bad without being in jail or emigrating
This is really complete nonsense.

If you see youth protection so easy that the state should release porn for all, then runs there but

By the way, look at the paragraph 184 StGB, if you already say about illegal wrong!
Porn to young people is just as illegal. Again, inform you first correctly.
Access to young people of porn is ok, or what?

what crooked! Of course only for Germans. Other countries, other laws, should be logical.

Since quite a lot of garbage comes from you, this was now my last comment in this thread.

Sure, all criticize and complain, but almost no one has the ass in the pants, and emigrates.
There are too many advantages for that. Draws but times consequences from your opinion
about the German state!

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Stromberg
Legend
It's actually a clear-cut matter:

Anyone who offers content on the Internet that is 18 years old or older should ensure that only 18 year olds can use the pages. Where is the problem?
If you were asked for your ID at the video store because it wasn't clear whether you were 18, that wasn't a problem either. And there would have been no talk of patronizing adults...

With an almost endless supply of porn, strictly speaking, Google is already a porn site in the corresponding search, to block a single is perhaps rather meaningful, I give you right...

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R3hab
Expert
per 10c spin this is 0,6 cent fee at 1 euro 6 cent
let's say you win 100 euro on 10c and don't pay out 1000x win, keep playing and lose
your tax levy is 6 euro
so i don't think the casinos care or did i calculate wrong? i calculated it with 6% tax

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