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Deposit and withdrawal methods: Reminder received from Skrill (Page 2)

Topic created on 02nd Dec. 2021 | Page: 2 of 4 | Answers: 30 | Views: 10,550
test45
Amateur
Interesting, but I've already posted it in another thread here in the Gamble Joe forum, e-wallets can also be seized, is even in the terms and conditions usually under data protection! Currently, Brussels is even considering the ban of crypto wallets should they not be verified with name and address.....which speaks absolutely against the philosophy of crypto...Welcome to the future!

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gamblekorti
Did any of you receive the letter from Advaro by mail as well as by e-mail? A simple mail is not exactly the most serious and valid way to collect debts, is it?
At least I haven't received a letter so far, and until that happens, of course I'm not going to just settle any Debt that only comes to me as a cheap newsletter look.
I mean, it could have just ended up in spam and then I probably would never have read it.

Anyway, the Google reviews of Advaro services GmbH speak for themselves. One user writes the following there:

Tried together with Skrill Ltd. whose service was not used to get money from me.
Skrill does not even have a BaFin license. Do not pay in any case to this association that wants to pull money out of your pocket wrongly and can not even prove what was allegedly done or used, from which the costs arise.
As soon as Advaro has found out my address at its own expense by means of a residence investigation and sends me mail, I will lean back with a smile and send the document unopened directly to the waste paper.
Therefore please send directly a reminder (which you will not do, because no debts exist). Will this nevertheless with the same smile, handed over to the lawyer.
A cheer for the legal protection Insurance for the private sector with free choice of lawyer.
______________________________

Again, tips for other "aggrieved/threatened"

Do not be intimidated by the threats of debt collection companies. They can neither ensure that the bailiff is the next day in front of the door, nor ensure that your account is seized.
Collection agencies have 0.0 state rights but are merely private companies that generate your margins through excessive "processing fees". Should you ever receive a legitimate reminder that you can also understand (provided it is a reputable collection agency). Do not pay the listed, fictitious costs, for example, for an alleged determination of residence, identity or what else comes to mind so funny.
What you can do if the claim is justified to pay the amount to the original creditor and ignore the collection agency or you pay to the collection agency. However, then WITHOUT the invented costs that can easily be 100 € and higher, depending on the claim amount.
The only thing you can do out of "goodwill" is to pay them 2,50€ for the 2 sheets of paper, the stamp and the printer ink. Maybe there is also a coffee in it for the typist, who cuts the standard letter to your data. We do not want the collection agencies otherwise go bankrupt.
Prohibits the collection agency according to (should you respond at all to their dirt) the DSGVO in Art. 6, in particular Art. 6 paragraph 1a, paragraph 1b and paragraph 1f DSGVO (§ 28a BDSG old)
the disclosure of your data to third parties, especially information files.


This gives me hope. How do you see it?

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Raupe
Amateur
Hey Gamblekorti

i had thought the same. However, I have found several pages on the net which say that a reminder by e-mail is legally permissible. Not very serious...but permissible.

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Rebelllady26
Experienced
Ehm....damals..

Skrill against me..

Court hearing had

Present a representative of the client and me...

End of the song... I had to pay Skrill a hefty sum back, because se also meant that some amount was not paid correctly etc blah blah
Did not pay attention to the whole 4 years, because in every forum is "Oh, Debt collection can nothing!" etc blah blah

Yes, yes. The reminder has gone through our district court ... And bang... it came to a hearing

Take you right nen lawyer, if you now so strange mails etc. gets
Skrill is a huge criminal pile

Constantly the management is changed and such faxes

And faaaaalls one mail from a lawyer named Ole Eilers gets. Haha.. You can google the guy. He represents Skrill,. Just funny that he looks every half year different in the network, but that has not itched the court. Someone had appeared for the Skrill in court ✌️

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gamble1
Legend
Rebellady26 wrote on 06/12/2021 at 13:10: Ehm....at that time...

Skrill vs. me.

Had court hearing

Present a representative of the client and me...

End of the song... I had to pay Skrill a hefty sum back, because se also meant that some amount was not paid correctly etc blah blah
Did not pay attention to the whole 4 years, because in every forum is "Oh, Debt collection can nothing!" etc blah blah

Yes, yes. The reminder has gone through our district court ... And bang... it came to a hearing

Take you right nen lawyer, if you now so strange mails etc. gets
Skrill is a huge criminal pile

Constantly the management is changed and such faxes

And faaaaalls one mail from a lawyer named Ole Eilers gets. Haha.. You can google the guy. He represents Skrill,. Just funny that he looks every half year different in the network, but that has not itched the court. Someone had appeared for the Skrill in court ✌️

The problem is a reminder is not checked by the court the person who gives this in order must only go to prepayment

Therefore, whenever you get a reminder notice and the claim is unfounded file an objection there is a piece of paper where you can select the reasons for which you dispute the claim

If you ignore this but it is considered as recognition of the claim after I think 14 days

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charrrge

Rebellady26 wrote on 06/12/2021 at 13:10: Ehm....at that time...

Skrill vs. me.

[...]

End of the song... I had to pay Skrill a hefty sum back, . The order to pay went through at our local court

With an enforceable title there's nothing more to negotiate in court and the claim is also not time-barred (so fast).


Otherwise: difficult to write in public forums something about it, because this form of lawyers very happy to read.

Advaro Services GmbH specializes in the collection of "questionable" debts. This is often done with the help of inadmissible means of pressure (Schufa entry, garnishment, charges for fraudulent entry). Sometimes these are vllt. justified, often it is in my opinion on the border to commercial fraud. I am in exchange with seven fellow sufferers who are struggling with the same issue, alternatively inactivity fees or account closure without justification. We are talking about a volume in the five-digit range. I don't want to know how many Euros can be brought in over the year in the form of Risk-free and without much effort through Skrill...

Back to the topic: As soon as advaro doesn't feel like it anymore, it goes to Dr. Hagen Schäfer. He always has to make sure that there is enough money left for the surfing vacation in Fuerte (the outer tan has to be adapted to the inner one). Therefore, he tries it again in the same way, if necessary with judicial dunning proceedings. The procedure of advaro/Dr. Schäfer is however somewhat too short thought and could become for Skrill Ltd. still the cost-intensive surprise Boomerang. However, I cannot and will not write more at this point

Therefore my recommendation:

- Objection (by fax and delivery registered letter)
- Request for data information according to Art. 15 DS-GVO.
- Notification at the RAK Munich
- Notification at the AG Munich
- Notification to the corresponding police authorities (goes online)
- Escalation to court proceedings.

One problem is simply that 90% of all those affected in this case do not do this, but stick their heads in the sand or pay in the end


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Raupe
Amateur
Hey Charrrge,

thanks a lot for your comments

So far, I have only sent the objection by e-mail. But now I will also do this by registered mail. Thanks for your tips.
I think this will be more serious than I thought
Skrill is also playing dumb. The answers I get are the absolute impudence and incoherent.

They really want me to know that I have not paid since August 2020 allegedly an open amount on my Skrill account, but my Skrill account is not blocked?
I have received neither a reminder nor any other indication from Skrill that I have an open account. In the meantime, funds have also been deposited into the Skrill account which have not been seized.

Then suddenly after more than a year in December 2021 Skrill instructs a collection agency because I do not pay debts of which I do not even know anything?

This is madness....


Can anyone tell me how it continues after filing the objection with advaro? Does then already come the court dunning procedure?

I have no legal protection and actually no money for a lawyer. I am a low earner : (
Manno so ne shit eh... How I despise these people who do something like that.

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wettibernd
Expert

charrrge wrote on 06.12.2021 at 20:24

With an enforceable title there's nothing more to negotiate in court and the claim is also not time-barred (that fast).



The claim becomes time-barred after 30 years in the case of a reminder or enforcement order, unless a private insolvency is made beforehand. Otherwise, there is nothing to add to your statements.

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gamble1
Legend
Caterpillar wrote on 12/07/2021 at 11:58 AM: Hey Charrrge,

thanks a lot for your comments

I have so far sent the objection only by mail. But will now also do this by registered mail. Thanks for your tips.
I think this will be more serious than I thought
Skrill is also playing dumb. The answers I get are the absolute impudence and incoherent.

They really want me to know that I have not paid since August 2020 allegedly an open amount on my Skrill account, but my Skrill account is not blocked?
I have received neither a reminder nor any other indication from Skrill that I have an open account. In the meantime, funds have also been deposited into the Skrill account which have not been seized.

Then suddenly after more than a year in December 2021 Skrill instructs a collection agency because I do not pay debts of which I do not even know anything?

This is madness....


Can anyone tell me how it continues after filing the objection with advaro? Does then already come the judicial dunning procedure?

I have no legal protection and actually no money for a lawyer. I am a low earner : (
Manno so ne shit eh... How I despise these people who do something like that.

should the dunning procedure then come you can again submit an objection then ends the dunning procedure and it is transferred to the court where in the letter is called then there is a procedure opened

I would and this is my personal opinion should a reminder come a free initial consultation with a lawyer to take advantage of the can show you times the opportunities

Because of the costs you do not have to fear there you can apply for legal aid at the AG if you really have almost no money or earn little in DE no one has to fight without a lawyer

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wettibernd
Expert

Caterpillar wrote on 12/07/2021 at 11:58 AM: Hey Charrrge,



That's insane....


Can anyone tell me how to proceed after filing the objection with advaro? Does then already come the court dunning procedure?


Probably nothing will happen, otherwise it comes to a procedure before the district court that is responsible for your place of residence, there you can then clarify the facts (should collect as much evidence as you can) and the procedure is discontinued. In any case, appeal in writing by registered mail within 2 weeks. Do not worry if it is as you say nothing will happen to you.


I wish you all the best.

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