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Deposit and withdrawal methods: Payout Stake Casino high win

Topic created on 04th May. 2023 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 21 | Views: 4,409
Firefly
Moin,

i have won a lot of money on Stake and now have this money on various Exchanges in the form of Crypto. The question is, how can I proceed now? Of course, I want to absolutely avoid gaining a lot of attention. Could I theoretically open a bank account in a country where Stake has a license and then withdraw the money there?

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roccoammo11
Expert
Firefly wrote on 04/05/2023 at 16:49: Moin,

i won a lot of money on Stake and now have this money on various Exchanges in the form of Crypto. The question is, how can I proceed now? Of course I want to absolutely avoid gaining a lot of attention. Could I theoretically open a bank account in a country where Stake has a license and then withdraw the money there?


why?to get it directly to the bank account?there are several credit card providers that allow deposits with cryptocurrency & with the card can pay it to you at the ATM..if it is then still on your bank account, it then just pay in cash at your bank! at coinbase gibts but directly so a card!

i do not know what kind of sums we are talking about here but keep in mind that from certain amounts is mandatory reporting!

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zocker0815
Top Member

Firefly wrote on 04/05/2023 at 16:49: Moin,

i won a lot of money on Stake and now have this money on various Exchanges in the form of Crypto. The question is, how can I proceed now? Of course I want to absolutely avoid gaining a lot of attention. Could I theoretically open a bank account in a country where Stake has a license and then withdraw the money there?


may i ask how much did you win, what stake, what game?



as rocco wrote e.g. if you have Bitpanda, you can request a credit card and then you can withdraw your money from the Bitpanda account simply at the ATM...

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Firefly
Well over 100k, that's why it would all take a long time already. Very many nba player bets hit and drunk in the morning after partying x400 at Crazy Time, although I actually avoid playing casino.

I would want to use the money already for larger investments, hence the idea with the bank account. Question then is of course also whether there could be problems with the means origin proof, if one buys a real estate with the money or transfers the money on the own account. I have already spoken with 2 lawyers in this regard and they could not answer me this unfortunately.

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zocker0815
Top Member
Firefly wrote on 05/05/2023 at 10:08: Well over 100k, that's why it would all take a long time already. Hit a lot of nba player bets and hit x400 at Crazy Time drunk in the morning after partying, although I actually avoid playing casino.

I would want to use the money already for larger investments, hence the idea with the bank account. Question then is of course also whether there could be problems with the means origin proof, if one buys a real estate with the money or transfers the money on the own account. I have already spoken to 2 lawyers in this regard and unfortunately they could not answer this question.

ok that is yes ne house number 100k, ahm yes if already lawyers you there can not help then I hardly believe that it will also know someone from the forum, because the question came yes also often from others and either Risk everything on the bank, maybe ne report because of illegal gambling, would probably also not the weilt, provided that the win is not taken away....


or otherwise that in small steps with the credit card

more I would not know

PS did you have to verify with the payout at stake or have they just paid out like that?

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Firefly

zocker0815 wrote on 05.05.2023 at 10:56 clock:
ok that is yes ne house number 100k, ahm yes if already lawyers you there can not help then I hardly believe that it will also know someone from the forum, because the question came yes also often from others and either Risk everything on the bank, maybe ne report because of illegal gambling, would probably yes also not the weilt, provided that the win is not taken away....


or otherwise that in small steps with the credit card

more I would not know

PS did you have to verify the payout at stake or did they just pay out like that?

I have verified at the very beginning directly with Perso so that I do not get any problems. I did not expect that they pay me the money, especially because I was also very new (about 2-3 weeks).

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Firefly
Next question would also be whether after a statute of limitations the amount won would be protected? Assuming that the amount would not be touched for 5 years on the Exchange pages, could not the entire amount be paid out to the account without any problems?

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david84
Amateur

Firefly wrote on 05/05/2023 at 15:45: Next question would also be if after a statute of limitations the amount won would be protected? Assuming you wouldn't touch the amount for 5 years on the Exchange sites, couldn't you pay out the whole amount to the account without any problems?

Unfortunately, I do not know, but you should also think about price fluctuations, it can also go down quickly in 5 years. In the best case, of course, upward.


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zocker0815
Top Member

Firefly wrote on 05/05/2023 at 15:45: Next question would also be whether after a statute of limitations the amount won would be protected? Assuming you wouldn't touch the amount for 5 years on the exchange sites, couldn't you pay the whole amount to the account without any problems?

i don't think so, because if you do that and you have let's say a larger sum then that won't be enough for them if you say you deposited that 5 years ago then they probably want to see the evidence of how much you deposited 5 years ago and there you would see that you had 100k and they would ask you where you had the 100k from back then....

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frapi07
Expert

Firefly wrote on 05/05/2023 at 15:45: Next question would also be whether after a statute of limitations the amount won would be protected? Assuming you wouldn't touch the amount for 5 years on the Exchange sites, couldn't you pay out the entire amount to the account without any problems?

It depends on where the company is located. This is the situation with MB (MuchBetter). Customer accounts have been frozen and it is no longer possible to make deposits and withdrawals. The reason for this is that they have lost their EU license (or not renewed it) and therefore they are not allowed to pay out any more. Theoretically, this could also happen on an exchange site (if you mean something like Bitpanda). Nobody knows how it will turn out. But the fact is that customers have not been able to access their funds for 3 months now. Theoretically, you have secured up to 100k with banks, but whether this law also applies to such sites I honestly do not know.

In addition, it is also important to know that you from an amount (think 500-700 € p. a.) it must report, because you then have to pay taxes on it. You can avoid this by keeping the coins for at least 1 year. I don't know exactly, because a) I don't play there and b) I never had the luck to have such a problem. The best thing is that you exchange with someone who plays there regularly and also pays out. Please do not rely on my tips 100%.

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Firefly

frapi07 wrote on 06.05.2023 at 09:41:

Depends on where the company is based. We have such a situation with MB (MuchBetter). Customer accounts have been frozen and no more deposits as well as withdrawals can be made. The reason for this is that they have lost their EU license (or not renewed it) and therefore they are not allowed to pay out any more. Theoretically, this could also happen on an exchange site (if you mean something like Bitpanda). Nobody knows how it will turn out. But the fact is that customers have not been able to access their funds for 3 months now. Theoretically, you have secured up to 100k with banks, but whether this law also applies to such sites I honestly do not know.

In addition, it is also important to know that you from an amount (think 500-700 € p. a.) it must report, because you then have to pay taxes on it. You can avoid this by keeping the coins for at least 1 year. I don't know exactly, because a) I don't play there and b) I never had the luck to have such a problem. The best thing is that you exchange with someone who plays there regularly and also pays out. Please do not rely on my tips 100%.

Thanks for the reply. Yes, that's exactly why I put the request here and I think everyone should think about what they would do in that situation. With me it was ultimately many bets and a large CT win with a lot of effort. It is of course no problem if you were anyway much in the red and the crypto amounts you have paid out again. Problematic is halts when you are ultimately in the plus.

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Bluff
Expert

Firefly wrote on 06.05.2023 at 13:45:

Thanks for the reply. Yes, that's exactly why I put the request here and I think everyone should think about what they would do in that situation. In my case it was a lot of bets and a big CT win with a lot of stake. It is of course no problem if you were anyway much in the red and the crypto amounts you have paid out again. Problematic is halts when you are ultimately in the plus.

You have written that you have also won a lot through NBA tips. since I also type a lot nba I would of course be interested in the tickets may you possibly upload and post here?'m really neugireg

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Nonstopniels
Hey have the same problem have 200k gewonmen and work with Bitpanda have already paid out 15k and then directly to the bank account went without problems but do not know how to do it with the rest ? possibly bitpanda card and then always withdraw money or whether that is also conspicuous ? every month or week times 9000€ on the bank account ? or different friends and family each 9000€ verteiln because 10k is yes the money laundering limit and yes difficult pity that stake has no license ...

what have you done now or do you already have a solution?

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frapi07
Expert

Nonstopniels wrote on 07.07.2023 at 21:34: Hey have the same problem have 200k gewonmen and work with Bitpanda have already paid out 15k and then directly to the bank account went without problems but do not know how I should do it with the rest ? possibly. bitpanda card and then always withdraw money or if that is also conspicuous? every month or week times 9000€ on the bank account? or different friends and family each 9000€ verteiln because 10k is yes the money laundering limit and yes difficult pity that stake has no license ...

what did you do now or do you already have a solution?

10k is for deposits to the bank account. 12.500 is the limit you mean. Do you really have so many friends / acquaintances that you trust 10-12k? Respect

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roccoammo11
Expert
yes I would always withdraw it with credit card and then just Deposit the cash into the account.certainly also takes time but so there should be no pointless problems!
am also sure that there are enough lawyers who can answer such questions easily if you ask the right ones...

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