Well yes whether the story is true or not, who in the year 2022 still pays out anything on his bank account, which stands in connection with gambling must count at the end unfortunately perhaps with consequences, and why also one has with a E-Wallet a card can withdraw cash, on-line Shopping and contactless pay...no Influencer, Streamer or YouTuber, which has to do what with gambling, pays out his win on his bank account, all have credit cards, ... ... on which it is also possible with crypto-currency to deposit...but also this becomes sometime in the EU also the problem become...only to information alone the state of Bavaria has almost 70 million euros for new judges, bailiffs and Co approved, in addition the authorities of the tax offices, employment office & Co with new departments equipped in the area of finance & money laundering...and xml-ph-0023@deepl..with high wins threatens the proof with the authorities and even with small wins threatens the cancellation of the bank account ... ..bank account and gambling
With all the things you write here about banks, I wonder if there will be no other way in the future to pay out your wins from gambling to a bank that is not controlled by German authorities?
So to choose a bank that has its headquarters abroad, for example? Or are we really only left with e-wallets in the end?
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Eventually, you will be left with nothing. No wallets either.
Everything will be completely loggable.
And since the tax authorities have access to all accounts with your name, it is already
already difficult
If you use a bank outside of Europe, money still has to get into it.
And that is exactly the crux of the matter. It must then go through a branch of a
bank located here. So there is again nothing to do with concealment.
omenII wrote on 30.05.2022 at 21:52: Everything will be logged seamlessly.
An absolute nightmare what the ECB plans for the future. A digital euro and the abolition of cash. Then we are all transparent. In Sweden, it should already be very far advanced. Have seen a few days ago nen report, where almost every Swedish business rejects cash and only accepts payment by credit card.
If you use a bank outside of Europe, money still has to get on it.
And that is exactly the crux of the matter. It must then go through a branch of a
bank located here. So there is again nothing to do with concealment.
But if you choose a bank outside Europe, you could have the money booked from your e-wallet to your account there?
Money doesn't necessarily have to be transferred from a branch in Europe to a foreign account, does it?
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Malganes wrote on 30.05.2022 at 22:12
But surely you could then, if you choose a bank outside Europe, have the cash posted from your e-wallet to your account there?
Surely it doesn't have to be from a branch in Europe to get money into a foreign account?
You can do that, but I can't tell you to what extent the powers and reach of the financial authorities are sufficient.
Not within the EU, it would have to be outside
But honestly, this Risk and this effort, just to be able to gamble?
If they catch you there by a stupid coincidence, then you are in any case due to illgal gambling and tax evasion
and tax evasion. And since you have opened an account abroad for this purpose, the declarations will be
Explanations will be quite meager
And with big wins you have a lot of cash, but even then you have to explain where you got the money from a certain sum
explain where you got the money from. (e.g. car purchase from a certain sum).
In principle, you can cover your living expenses with the money. My, that is not bad, but I personally
need the money on the account, for example, to make special payments for the house. What brings me a lot of cash, if
i have to be constantly afraid that I stand out
And if there's hardly any account activity on your regular checking account, that's noticeable too. That is
exactly what moonlighters do. They work for cash and finance their lives that way.
Of course, the tax office knows this. Little account movement - very suspicious!
If however hardly account movements are present, one comes fast into explanation trouble. You will hardly
over months do not buy or do not need cash. And the tax office goes back 10 years. It can
almost certainly see the point where the account movements have stopped, so you had your win.
One or the other will fall there guaranteed on the nose! This smells like tax evasion, even for a layman.
That would be really too hot for me. But everyone must know for themselves.
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I hope here is still reported how it has turned out..
Good that I hardly win anything 🙈 what a nightmare
I've been exactly a year with the n26 have always paid out so between 100 to 300 euros a month until now nothing came on the part of the bank.but must say it is only used for withdrawal.no deposits through the bank in an online casino.
Is it worse for the banks when deposited through the bank in the online casino?
Or is it worse to make withdrawals from an online casino through the bank I always wanted to know?
Krabbenburger wrote on 30.05.2022 at 18:00
Hi Seb
They want proof of the origin of your Neteller money ( so probably wins from sports betting and casino .)
Realistically if they see these transactions ( casinos without a German license ) they would terminate your account .
I would in your place just make a written statement that it is winnings from sports betting ( of course only companies licensed in Germany ) and refuse to send any documents there . The bank is a private company and not a public authority. You are not obliged to send any documents there.
Have you deposited with your bank account often at Neteller?
How much money have you transferred from Neteller to your bank account lately?
The thing is I have deposited more from visa to neteller just under 15k from bank account to neteller just under 8k
I have transferred 12k to my bank account
Therefore, I thought it is enough to prove the 15k Deposit from visa to neteller then the 12k that are in question are easily covered or I wanted to argue neteller as a temporary deposit to have taken...but who knows knows that with about 140 deposits at different 100s of amounts with fees that is very funny
That one cancels the account and I open somewhere else a new one is me meanwhile no matter I want njr not that any authorities investigate that would be my downfall....in addition I have not even plus
Seb0402 wrote on 05/31/2022 at 11:09 am
The thing is i have deposited more from visa to Neteller just under 15k from bank account to neteller just under 8k
Withdrawn to my bank account I have 12k
Therefore, I thought it is enough to prove the 15k Deposit from visa to neteller then the 12k that are questioned yes loosely covered or I wanted to argue neteller as an intermediate deposit to have taken...but who knows knows that with about 140 deposits at different 100s amounts with fees that is very strange
That one cancels the account and I open somewhere else a new one is me meanwhile no matter I want njr not that any authorities investigate that would be my downfall....in addition I have not even plus
I see. Were the 12K withdrawals from Neteller also rather smaller amounts that add up to 12k or were they just a few large withdrawals ?
If it was small triggers a money laundering suspicion at the bank if constantly many small amounts go on Neteller and then again many small amounts come back.
I would in your place as I said only tell the bank that I have made sports betting without sending any receipts.
You can tell the bank that you no longer have access to your Neteller history because you have closed your account.
Maybe you have also played at a Provider with a sports betting license from Germany? ( bwin, tipico etc .)
There you could send a withdrawal slip.
Maybe you can clarify this matter with the bank. Basically, you should always give as little as possible information to the bank and as much as necessary.
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Everything will be completely loggable.
And since the tax authorities have access to all accounts with your name, it is already
already difficult
If you use a bank outside of Europe, money still has to get into it.
And that is exactly the crux of the matter. It must then go through a branch of a
bank located here. So there is again nothing to do with concealment.
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An absolute nightmare what the ECB plans for the future. A digital euro and the abolition of cash. Then we are all transparent. In Sweden, it should already be very far advanced. Have seen a few days ago nen report, where almost every Swedish business rejects cash and only accepts payment by credit card.
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But if you choose a bank outside Europe, you could have the money booked from your e-wallet to your account there?
Money doesn't necessarily have to be transferred from a branch in Europe to a foreign account, does it?
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You can do that, but I can't tell you to what extent the powers and reach of the financial authorities are sufficient.
Not within the EU, it would have to be outside
But honestly, this Risk and this effort, just to be able to gamble?
If they catch you there by a stupid coincidence, then you are in any case due to illgal gambling and tax evasion
and tax evasion. And since you have opened an account abroad for this purpose, the declarations will be
Explanations will be quite meager
And with big wins you have a lot of cash, but even then you have to explain where you got the money from a certain sum
explain where you got the money from. (e.g. car purchase from a certain sum).
In principle, you can cover your living expenses with the money. My, that is not bad, but I personally
need the money on the account, for example, to make special payments for the house. What brings me a lot of cash, if
i have to be constantly afraid that I stand out
And if there's hardly any account activity on your regular checking account, that's noticeable too. That is
exactly what moonlighters do. They work for cash and finance their lives that way.
Of course, the tax office knows this. Little account movement - very suspicious!
If however hardly account movements are present, one comes fast into explanation trouble. You will hardly
over months do not buy or do not need cash. And the tax office goes back 10 years. It can
almost certainly see the point where the account movements have stopped, so you had your win.
One or the other will fall there guaranteed on the nose! This smells like tax evasion, even for a layman.
That would be really too hot for me. But everyone must know for themselves.
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Good that I hardly win anything 🙈 what a nightmare
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Is it worse for the banks when deposited through the bank in the online casino?
Or is it worse to make withdrawals from an online casino through the bank I always wanted to know?
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The thing is I have deposited more from visa to neteller just under 15k from bank account to neteller just under 8k
I have transferred 12k to my bank account
Therefore, I thought it is enough to prove the 15k Deposit from visa to neteller then the 12k that are in question are easily covered or I wanted to argue neteller as a temporary deposit to have taken...but who knows knows that with about 140 deposits at different 100s of amounts with fees that is very funny
That one cancels the account and I open somewhere else a new one is me meanwhile no matter I want njr not that any authorities investigate that would be my downfall....in addition I have not even plus
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I see. Were the 12K withdrawals from Neteller also rather smaller amounts that add up to 12k or were they just a few large withdrawals ?
If it was small triggers a money laundering suspicion at the bank if constantly many small amounts go on Neteller and then again many small amounts come back.
I would in your place as I said only tell the bank that I have made sports betting without sending any receipts.
You can tell the bank that you no longer have access to your Neteller history because you have closed your account.
Maybe you have also played at a Provider with a sports betting license from Germany? ( bwin, tipico etc .)
There you could send a withdrawal slip.
Maybe you can clarify this matter with the bank. Basically, you should always give as little as possible information to the bank and as much as necessary.
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