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Public complaints: Payout at Betsson (Page 2)

Topic created on 19th May. 2018 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 18 | Views: 9,795
Stefan80
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19th May. 2018, at 02:44 pm CEST#11
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stkrie wrote on 05/19/2018 at 2:32 pm: @ Stromberg

But it's complete bullshit.
What regulation or law should be the behind the closed loop?
Other than the T&C`s. And these are "laws" that the casinos make themselves anyway as they want.

What sense does that make? Only one: the players can book their money back and
gamble away everything!

and here it was even booked back by the casino. have fortunately made a screenshot of everything. On the mga site (Malta Gaming Authority) everything is in English and difficult to find there what

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Anonym

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19th May. 2018, at 04:18 pm CEST#12
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Well, this is all related to the money laundering business. The more ways money goes the harder it is to check - so the casinos usually insist on balanced payment methods, ie you Deposit the most Cc - must also pay out by Cc. Other casinos say withdrawal goes only on the way of the last deposit. The two principles are commonplace.

And that your money from the casino back to the balance is completely normal as long as you do not use a payment method that must be taken at that moment. I have experienced this many times in several casinos - but after that it works. Mostly it is also booked back when documents are missing.

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s****e

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19th May. 2018, at 04:59 pm CEST#13
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If someone deposits 10.000€, and after a short time pays out again, without having gambled much, I agree with you
to have gambled, I agree with you.

But if I Deposit in different ways, which always goes strangely unchecked,
and only when withdrawing there are problems, then this is certainly not money laundering law.

That pushes the casinos. If I deposit 50 euros, and win 4000 €, I have to
verify myself. According to my inquiries at the time because of the money laundering law.
Why, I only deposited 50, the rest is win?!

Then Amazon would have to check me all the time.

The casinos apply the law as they need it. Whereby I am quite sure that with e.g.
with 50 euro deposit and 4000€ win is certainly not in the law that controlled
must be controlled. The sum is much too low. And I have paid in no 4050€, but only
50, and won the rest. So where is the problem?
In this case it worked out, because he unfortunately
gambled everything away.
Read the German money laundering law, so you see that this is complete humbug.
Normally I would have to check the casino or report where they got the 4000€ to pay my win.

And the money is booked back is normal, but only because we have become accustomed to it.
Why is this necessary? The money remains in the payout, and the customer is told,
that he should please indicate another method of payment. Done! Only if the customer wishes to do so, will the
booked back

That is what I always say. We have become so accustomed to being screwed that it is completely normal for us
it's completely normal

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Stefan80
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19th May. 2018, at 05:46 pm CEST#14
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stkrie wrote on 19.05.2018 at 16:59: If someone deposits 10.000€, and after a short time withdraws again without having gambled much
to have gambled, I agree with you.

But if I Deposit in different ways, which always goes strangely unchecked,
and only when withdrawing there are problems, then this is certainly not money laundering law.

That pushes the casinos. If I deposit 50 euros, and win 4000 €, I have to
verify myself. According to my inquiries at the time because of the money laundering law.
Why, I only deposited 50, the rest is win?!

Then Amazon would have to check me all the time.

The casinos apply the law as they need it. Whereby I am quite sure that with e.g.
with 50 euro deposit and 4000€ win is certainly not in the law that controlled
must be controlled. The sum is much too low. And I have paid in no 4050€, but only
50, and won the rest. So where is the problem?
In this case it worked out, because he unfortunately
gambled everything away.
Read the German money laundering law, so you see that this is complete humbug.
Normally I would have to check the casino or report where they got the 4000€ to pay my win.

And the money is booked back is normal, but only because we have become accustomed to it.
Why is this necessary? The money remains in the payout, and the customer is told,
that he should please indicate another method of payment. Done! Only if the customer wishes to do so, will the
booked back

That is what I always say. We have become so accustomed to being screwed that it is completely normal for us
it's completely normal.

what annoys and upsets me the most, is the statement that first the PayPal payment must be through, so that I can book the rest on the credit card. I had at that time, while the PayPal payout was still running, over 4000€ on the account and could not pay them out. This has nothing to do with laws

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Stromberg
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19th May. 2018, at 05:56 pm CEST#15
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stkrie wrote on 05/19/2018 at 2:32 pm: @ Stromberg

But it's complete bullshit.
What regulation or law should be the behind the closed loop?
Other than the T&C`s. And these are "laws" that the casinos make themselves anyway as they want.

What sense does that make? Only one: the players can book their money back and
gamble away everything!

No idea which law.Evtl.auch any regulations at European level or whatever.

Is of course so or so stupid that such situations arise.
Do not understand at all that it is not also regulation to offer a loss limit for player protection.
I actually like to play at Betsson and Betsafe but this is really a clear minus point.

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s****e

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19th May. 2018, at 06:12 pm CEST#16
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That is exactly the point. You see that they make bonus rules and terms and conditions,
as they are funny. There is no authority in a position or authorized to put an end to this
to prepare. That actually says it all, who sits on the longer lever.

And the penalty payment of Leo Vegas, do not know if the penalty payment was higher, or the
Revenue by the missing player protection. Tip on the latter, otherwise they would have it
long ago implemented

Since no penalty payment helps, then the casino is just moved to offline mode.
But that alone shows the helplessness of the supervisory authorities there.

@Stefan

No, they wanted you to gamble away the money you won, and they won in the end.
That they advance some flimsy reasons is clear.
It is not the first time.

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Stromberg
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20th May. 2018, at 03:24 pm CEST#17
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stkrie wrote on 19/05/2018 at 18:12: That is exactly the point. You see that they make bonus rules and T&C`s,
as they are funny. There is no authority able or authorized to put an end to this drifting
to prepare. That actually says it all, who sits at the longer lever.


I think you are referring to the fact that I said that I do not know the law or the regulation.
But that does not mean, of course, that it does not exist.
Now apart from the fact whether one trusts OC or not, weak laws or regulations are to be trusted to the EU or irgrndwelchen countries just as...

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Anonym

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20th May. 2018, at 03:52 pm CEST#18
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Stromberg wrote on 05/20/2018 at 3:24 PM
I think by that you are referring to me saying I don't know the law or regulation.
But of course that does not mean that it does not exist.
Now leaving aside whether you trust OC or not, bullshit laws or regulations are just as likely to happen to the EU or irgrndwelchen countries....

Where we would be back on the subject of "regulation in Germany".I am of the opinion that NOW urgently something must happen.I have, maybe I'm wrong, the feeling that the casino landscape is getting a little out of hand.The question is whether that would be better with a regulation.I doubt that something is done in the short term.

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Stefan80
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20th May. 2018, at 07:26 pm CEST#19
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If you win something and want to cash out, you do everything the casinos ask you to do. You know their tactics and hope that they do not work out. Unfortunately, it often works and that annoys me. Something like that should be prevented. If I gamble in a real casino, I get my money but also paid out any time I want.

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