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Bonus & offers: The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

Topic created on 03rd Jan. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 18 | Views: 5,974
Pat1991
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

3rd Jan. 2024, at 09:57 pm CET#1
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Hello,

i just have to vent. Maybe it's because I play more aggressively when I'm "not risking my own money", maybe it's just coincidence, but still: it's annoying. And it's really annoying.

A few weeks ago, I accepted a no Deposit bonus, which my regular casino Mr. Bet regularly gives me. Unfortunately, they often do it in such a way that they unlock a few freespins whenever I stop gambling for a few minutes, probably to keep me going... and of course with a 50 EUR max cashout, which can of course cause the unwary gambler to lose his balance in a very unpleasant way.

But that didn't happen to me here... Instead, I went on a brilliant winning streak with the bonus, and promptly had EUR 658 on my balance.

My goodness, how I cursed. Just when a max. cashout of 50 EUR is active, I win the biggest chunk of my gambling career?

Fortunately, I had made a mistake and it was EUR 100 instead of EUR 50... But that's just a side note.

And then the same thing again today. This time it was the weekly 10 EUR bonus, which, after the daring, brought something between 98 and 118 EUR. The limit hit immediately, now there is still 68 EUR on the balance. With a maximum cashout of 50 EUR, I might get a few more EUR out of goodwill.

It's annoying. Just completely annoying. Why does this always have to happen in No Deposit?

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Saphira
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

3rd Jan. 2024, at 11:41 pm CET#2
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They want to annoy you, torture you psychologically. You can tell by the fact that they track you while you're playing and immediately plaster you with Bonuses in the few minutes you go to the loo or whatever. Annoying, yes, and the 100 euro cashout for one bonus and the 50 euro for the other without depositing first would also be extremely annoying. It's outrageous. Could have been so much more. Maybe I won't accept any more and simply ignore these offers in future.

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Falke
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

3rd Jan. 2024, at 11:51 pm CET#3
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Have you ever thought about only playing at casinos where the no deposits are without max cashout? I mean, you're annoyed about a problem that could be solved quite easily. If you had won the money at another casino, you could have paid out everything.

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T0uchTheSky
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

4th Jan. 2024, at 12:00 am CET#4
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Confucius always says: Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

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Langhans
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

4th Jan. 2024, at 12:40 am CET#5
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I wouldn't even think of playing up to €600 if I knew there was a max cashout. Or how do you do it when free spins from Vegadream, Viggoslots, whatever & co. roll in? I don't aggressively spin around in the three-digit range Pay out if it works and then it's good. It's a Risk-free treat in the form of a gift and if an AZ is reduced, the rules that I was aware of will apply.

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garfield68
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

4th Jan. 2024, at 12:44 am CET#6
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i agree, I'll be happy if I reach the minimum payout limit and then transfer it to my wallet

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Langhans
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4th Jan. 2024, at 01:01 am CET#7
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garfield68 wrote on 04.01.2024 at 00:44: I see it the same way, I'm happy if I get to the minimum payout limit and then off to my wallet

well ... I try to get the thing to 20, 30 or 50 (depending on what their banking requires) and am happy when it works. It's (unfortunately) almost standard practice for the shops to suddenly come around the corner with free spins, especially when you're playing with a bonus, which could then possibly affect the total payout amount . As a rule, I reject everything that doesn't seem kosher to me and have done quite well with it. You always have to be careful...

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Anonym

The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

4th Jan. 2024, at 01:45 am CET#8
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Langhans wrote on 04.01.2024 at 01:01:

well ... I try to jockey the thing to 20, 30 or 50 (depending on what their banking requires) and I'm happy when it works. It's (unfortunately) almost standard practice for the shops to suddenly come around the corner with free spins, especially when you're playing with a bonus, which could then possibly affect the total payout amount . As a rule, I reject everything that doesn't seem kosher to me and have done quite well with it. You always have to be careful...

But you can't completely prevent the max win from crashing into you with a no dep bonus. Or how do you play these things?

Playing Betsoft slots with max win 1000x at the lowest limit would be my approach to stay as poor as possible. To be very specific:
Gamble Total Overdrive on 5 cents, has a max win of 1450x.

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Langhans
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4th Jan. 2024, at 01:58 am CET#9
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SlottiKarotti wrote on 04.01.2024 01:45:

But you can't completely prevent the Max Win from crashing into you with a no dep bonus. Or how do you play these things?

Gambling the slots from Betsoft with max win 1000x at the lowest limit would be my approach to stay as poor as possible. To be very specific:
Gambling Total Overdrive on 5 cents has a max win of 1450x.

Of course, I can't prevent myself from getting a max win. Incidentally, it would be the first one of my life and the timing would be really unfavorable in the context of a no Deposit offer mentioned here But basically I don't quite understand the problem: I get free spins...that cost me absolutely nothing and in return I can't win an infinite amount or even relatively little. That's the deal between the casino and all of us when we take advantage of free offers

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BinGOLDiG
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

4th Jan. 2024, at 02:07 am CET#10
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Langhans wrote on 04.01.2024 at 00:40: I wouldn't even think of playing up to €600 if I knew there was a max cashout. Or how do you do it when free spins from Vegadream, Viggoslots, whatever & co. roll in? I don't aggressively spin around in the three-digit range Pay out if it works and then it's good. It's a Risk-free bonus in the form of a gift and if an AZ is reduced, the rules that I was aware of apply.

Yes, at mrbet you have to wager the €50 10x before you can cash out! So he has no other choice if he wants the money!

I know that from dux & Co and I get annoyed there too!
The cool thing about viggoslots & Co is that the wins are wager-free and you can cash out immediately as soon as you have reached at least €30 or the max cashout of €50

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BinGOLDiG
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

4th Jan. 2024, at 02:14 am CET#11
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Langhans wrote on 04.01.2024 at 01:58:

Of course I can't prevent a Max Win from rattling in on me. Incidentally, it would be the first one of my life and the timing would be really unfavorable in the context of a no Deposit offer mentioned here But in principle I don't quite understand the problem: I get free spins...that cost me absolutely nothing and in return I can't win an infinite amount or even relatively little. That's the deal between the casino and all of us when we take advantage of free offers

He actually means that he never lands such a big hit when he invests his own money...then the money just feels like it's rattling down...but of course, especially when he gets free spins/bonuses, the luck is there again purely by chance, but in principle, not really!


In short, the casino regulates the rtp value up when a bonus offer is claimed and down again when playing with your own money!

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Langhans
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

4th Jan. 2024, at 02:30 am CET#12
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BinGOLDiG wrote on 04.01.2024 02:14:

He actually means that he never lands such a big hit when he invests his own money...then the money just rattles down...but of course just when he gets free spins/bonus the luck is there again by chance but in principle not really!


In short, the casino raises the rtp value when a bonus offer is claimed and lowers it again when you play with your own money!

Ah, ok...then I understand better about the €658 and the unfulfilled conditions. I would like to put this into perspective because I simply didn't know and misinterpreted it.

What I continue to vehemently "dispute" is the matter of the different or even controlled RTPs if you are now playing with a bonus, without a bonus, free money or similar. At least I can't see any connection...Sometimes it went like this, sometimes it went like that and usually not the way you wanted

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BinGOLDiG
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4th Jan. 2024, at 03:29 am CET#13
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Since I haven't deposited any more money with viggoslots & Co so far, I can actually only achieve a win through the regular free spins!
Most of the time, of course, I withdraw the €50 and then Deposit a tenner of it again and continue playing the slot that made me win and it actually rattled on a few times afterwards 🤷‍♀️

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Spocky17
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

4th Jan. 2024, at 05:20 am CET#14
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I recently had a similarly annoying experience with Wunderwins

I had no Deposit spins and won 1.68 or so.

Normally I'm aware of the conditions regarding the payout limit.

But not on this day.

Just thought I'd play Tombstone, you've never played it before and you often read about good wins.

No sooner said than done, spun to 20 cents until the penultimate spin before the money was gone.

Zack, into the free spins, 7 of them.

The thing spins one round after the other and does nothing, nothing at all.

Then the 7th spin, I don't know what exactly happened, but it went bing bang bang bang bang. And a bunch of Multiplier symbols appeared.

The box starts counting up the win, first in 1 euro increments and then faster in 10 euro increments and so on. And bang bang bang stops at 500 and a few euros.

Just at that moment when I was overcome with joy, I remembered the bonus conditions and the limit.

Annoying yes, because there hasn't been such a hit with depositors for a long time and now it's gone for the time being.

I tried to withdraw €500 but of course only received the €50.

Still happy that it was free.

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Pat1991
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The crux of the matter with no deposit bonuses

4th Jan. 2024, at 08:10 am CET#15
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Langhans wrote on 04.01.2024 at 00:40: I wouldn't even think of playing up to €600 if I knew there was a max cashout. Or how do you do it when free spins from Vegadream, Viggoslots, whatever & co. roll in? I don't aggressively spin around in the three-digit range Pay out if it works and then it's good. It's a Risk-free bonus in the form of a gift and if an AZ is reduced, the rules that I was aware of apply.

After the first good hit, I just wanted to pop the wager quickly and turned up the bet a little. Big Bass Bonanza and others immediately start throwing as if they were floats at the carnival.

Not always abnormally high for the bets I've dared to place... I usually never play on 1-3 EUR per spin.

The game that got me going this time, for example, was Sweet Bonanza. That also gave me a big hit 2-3 days ago (with real money without bonus), as did Big Bass Bonanza (around 1000x but only on a 10 cent bet or in the bonus buy).

Nevertheless. I had NEVER had over 600 EUR on the balance (at times it was over 800 during the wager!!). That was really... I mean... ALTER!!!...

Very nasty timing.

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