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Bonus & offers: Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

Topic created on 06th Sep. 2020 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 24 | Views: 4,343
Paddington
Top Member

Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

6th Sep. 2020, at 06:01 pm CEST#1
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Hi guys!
For a long time my favorite casino when I play Raw is Twin.com
The reason: You often get the opportunity to get free spins for your Deposit through promotions. For example, once a week starts the action: "Free spins ladder", there you get to his deposit first 30 free spins, then 40 and at the very end with his third deposit 50 free spins. Unfortunately, mostly on a bet of 0.10€. To be able to pay out the win from the free spins, you have to wager it 35x, there is no Max Bet

But now we come to my question
To take full advantage of the promotions I have often only deposited a 10er, this then 1x converted (Prerequisite!) and if I was then still at 10€, I have this again paid out and then played the free spins. Then I deposited again and tried to convert the amount again 1x. Sure, sometimes you lose everything before, sometimes you are something in the plus, but now I had an idea!
I have today 2x 20€ deposited and in each case with Roulette 10€ on red and 10€ on black set. Provided that no 0 comes (risk 1 to 36) I have my money automatically 1x converted and can pay it out theoretically directly again. Or you set a small amount as a hedge on 0.
The withdrawal also worked without problems and I could play both times my 40 free spins.
My question? Is this fraud? Can the casino exclude me from the bonus promotions because of this?
Of course, this should not be extremely ausreitzen. This of course also works with other Online Casinos, under the same conditions and a small Risk is also taken, the 0 does not come often, but it comes!

How would you assess this and what do you think of the procedure or the "strategy"

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Begbie
Elite

Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

6th Sep. 2020, at 06:21 pm CEST#2
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What a hassle because of the few free spins....

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Christian1337
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Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

6th Sep. 2020, at 06:49 pm CEST#3
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You need to find out more about this. Opposite betting is listed in the terms and conditions of many casinos as bonus abuse...would also not recommend anyone to start with it.

Was therefore blocked at CasinoSecret and my money (100 euros) were retained. And I did that only on 2 days (otherwise normally implemented with slots).

Therefore my advice: Finger away

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Sarkasto
Expert

Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

6th Sep. 2020, at 06:51 pm CEST#4
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you can do so, have here in the forum also read that the one at wunderino (or was it hyperino?) with MuchBetter deposited, the fs as a bonus with and directly paid out again and so only the fs has cashed..
If you yourself say that 1x convert ne requirement is, will not be forbidden after the convert directly pay out. It can also be that you completely verzocken the 10er, without nen win (in the extreme case) or halt not again on 10 hochkommst. In this respect, I would not say that your strategy could be interpreted as fraud... ^^

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Paddington
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Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

6th Sep. 2020, at 07:45 pm CEST#5
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warennn wrote on 06.09.2020 at 18:51 clock: you can do so, have here in the forum also read that the one at wunderino (or was it hyperino?) deposited with MuchBetter, the fs as a bonus with and directly paid out again and so only the fs has cashed..
If you yourself say that 1x convert ne requirement is, will not be forbidden after the convert directly pay out. It can also be that you completely verzocken the 10er, without nen win (in the extreme case) or halt not again on 10 hochkommst. In this respect, I would not say that your strategy could be interpreted as fraud... ^^

So directly pay out again is already something brazen 😀 but with the 1x convert you should eig against nothing violate and a certain residual Risk is also present. Nevertheless, I do not want to lose my Twin account because of this

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Stromberg
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Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

6th Sep. 2020, at 07:52 pm CEST#6
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Is then the once convert the Deposit condition to get the free spins or to be able to withdraw?
If it is only a condition to be able to withdraw, as with many casinos, then it is not fraud in my eyes...

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Paddington
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Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

6th Sep. 2020, at 08:20 pm CEST#7
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Stromberg wrote on 06.09.2020 at 19:52: Is the once convert the Deposit condition to get the free spins or to be able to pay out?
If it is only condition to be able to pay out, as with many casinos, then it is in my eyes no fraud...

Exactly, so the condition for a withdrawal (regardless of whether a bonus or free spins are associated with it) must be implemented before a withdrawal 1x. If this is not the case, the withdrawal is canceled again

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Jupp2206
Amateur

Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

6th Sep. 2020, at 09:52 pm CEST#8
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I used to do this with Twin similar to you. The FS always played only after total loss or payout. But I recently discovered a previously unknown to me new rule in the terms and conditions, according to which FS and their win must be played before payout and converted accordingly. Seid dem Is the Oc significantly less interesting for me as before

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TranceBabe
Expert

Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

6th Sep. 2020, at 10:58 pm CEST#9
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SimonHell wrote on 06.09.2020 at 18:01
In order to withdraw the win from the free spins you have to wager it 35x, there is no Max Bet.

Max. Bet, is like everywhere 5€
Roulette contributes only 10% to the bonus turnover, so it is not worth it.

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Sarkasto
Expert

Free spins at Twin! (Strategy or even fraud?)

6th Sep. 2020, at 11:15 pm CEST#10
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Jupp2206 wrote on 06.09.2020 at 21:52 clock: But have recently discovered a previously unknown to me new rule in the AGB`s according to which FS and their win before Auszahlungs played and must be implemented accordingly. Seid dem Is the Oc significantly less interesting for me as before.

I deposited on Monday and took the FS offer and I was able to pay out 500€ without having touched the free spins... I then played 3h after withdrawal request or about 2h before payout and had no problems...

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