Then rather .....not gambling quite simply.Nobody forces you.
This post has been translated automatically
K****t
Forum posts:688Member has been banned
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
19th Dec. 2018, at 02:09 pm CET#392
0 Likes
Nobody has liked this post so far
Sahip74 wrote on 19.12.2018 at 14:00: Then rather .....not gambling quite simply.zwingt you no one
You rant about casinos and rip offs all the time.
Then what is the deeper meaning of such comments? None.
Just try to understand what it's all about, then you don't have to let such comments go.
I will remind you the next time you complain again.
Coffee Light wrote on 12/19/2018 at 1:56 pm
Uaaaaah, and I really didn't want to get into these over-the-top expressions of loyalty anymore.
Your math with the RTP doesn't hold water.
If the dog hadn't sh**, he would have caught the rabbit...
Since when do you win so that you have a maximum loss of 2 euros? Really funny.
Especially on this slot I have always had total loss so far. Sometimes here and there a few cents, sometimes a euro, that's it.
And then 3 euros on it, which disappear again into nothing anyway, especially with Vera&John?
What you can expect from multi-million dollar companies that live off the tens of millions their customers pay in - and live well - is that you don't get screwed.
That you are not tricked into depositing for 5 or 10% Cashback, or converting anything else to get 10 free spins.
All these promotions are just to get customers to Deposit, knowing full well that they get nothing and nothing from the so-called bonuses. Except for a few exceptions, but they would win even with a pure deposit.
They are not gifts, but bait offers that are simply ridiculous.
It's like someone saying at Christmas, "Here, I have some socks for you. But you'll only get them if you give me 20 euros for them and run around the block ten times, do 30 push-ups and 15 turns on the high bar. If you can do all that in 5 minutes, the socks are yours. But be careful, they will dissolve by themselves after 5 to 20 minutes if you touch them..."
Rip-off, nothing more.
Then better no calendar at all.
The calculation works out at average RTP. Of course, this means that there will be outliers from the statistics, in both directions. Your personal feeling does not play a role
That's exactly what I'm saying, advertising. Imagine that Axe advertising also wants you to buy deodorant. And if Ikea offers an advent calendar, it's also about becoming an Ikea customer. Why should casinos, of all places, give awesome gifts?
Your last paragraph with the gambling is only valid if you call the casino your friend. But then your life would be rather poor
How something that is free can be a rip-off I do not understand. Does someone hold a gun to your head and force you to deposit for 10% cashback? I hope not. If you wanted to play today anyway, 10% cashback is better than not. This has nothing to do with loyalty. I myself don't currently accept deposit offers at all, but why should I complain that they exist. It's really like complaining when Audi offers a Christmas promotion with especially low financing. I don't freak out because the car isn't given to me for free
This post has been translated automatically
K****t
Forum posts:688Member has been banned
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
19th Dec. 2018, at 02:26 pm CET#394
0 Likes
Nobody has liked this post so far
Bone wrote on 12/19/2018 at 2:14 PM
The math works out for average RTP. Means of course that there will be just as much outliers from the statistics, in both directions. Your personal feelings don't matter there
That's exactly what I'm saying, advertising. Imagine that Axe advertising also wants you to buy deodorant. And if Ikea offers an advent calendar, it's also about becoming an Ikea customer. Why should casinos, of all places, give awesome gifts?
Your last paragraph with the gambling is only valid if you call the casino your friend. But then your life would be rather poor
How something that is free can be a rip-off I do not understand. Does someone hold a gun to your head and force you to Deposit for 10% Cashback? I hope not. If you wanted to play today anyway, 10% cashback is better than not. This has nothing to do with loyalty. I myself don't currently accept deposit offers at all, but why should I complain that they exist. It's really like complaining when Audi offers a Christmas promotion with especially low financing. I don't freak out because the car isn't given to me for free.
As a friend? What are you talking about again?
It is not free. If you pay in for a "gift", you don't get a gift. Unless you deposit 20 euros and get, say, 20 euros for free. Or 100 free spins. Something that is worthwhile. Then you can talk about gifts.
Advertising and rip-off are by no means mutually exclusive.
But we both know that you just feel like fighting again. That's the only reason why you react to my posts.
I'm really tired of this constant kindergarten with you.
Your strange calculation examples are wrong, your strange assertions ("...as a friend...") serve again only to become personal and to attach insinuations, which do not even make sense.
The RTP at 30 euros does not guarantee even 10% that you end up with 28 euros. You know that as well as I and everyone else.
But eyewash is nothing new
The fact is, large casino companies make millions to billions in sales per calendar year. If I then get as a diligent customer partly 5-10% cash back or any minimal Bonuses, which are associated with inhumane turnover conditions, this borders on pure rip-off and greed. What do casinos promise themselves with such "offers"?! No one makes deposits for such crap! If a casino X every 2-3 days times 5-10 euro bonuses or FS (20-50) goes there certainly no company broke or makes great losses. On the contrary: just with such offers customers are enticed to Deposit! Just when times a small win jumps out. To payouts it comes then as a rule with less than 5% of the customers... means in the reverse conclusion, casino X profits from it! Unfortunately, only complete idiots seem to sit in their marketing departments, otherwise it can not be explained! XTIP haut min. every week ne 5 Euro FreeBet out. They know how the rabbit runs...
Coffee Light wrote on 12/19/2018 at 2:26 pm
As a friend? What are you talking about again?
It's not free. If you pay in for a "gift" you don't get a gift. Unless you Deposit 20 euros and get, say, 20 euros for free. Or 100 free spins. Something that is worthwhile. Then you can talk about gifts.
Advertising and rip-off are by no means mutually exclusive.
But we both know that you just feel like fighting again. That's the only reason why you react to my posts.
I'm really tired of this constant kindergarten with you.
Your strange calculation examples are wrong, your strange assertions ("...as a friend...") serve again only to become personal and to attach insinuations, which do not even make sense.
The RTP at 30 Euro does not even guarantee 10% that you will end up with 28 Euro. You know that as well as I and everyone else.
But eyewash is nothing new
I have also written nowhere what of guarantee. This is simply the average value. I even wrote that there will be outliers in both directions. And again: What makes you think that a casino is obliged to give you gifts at Advent time? Of course it's advertising, how many times do you have to say that or how strange do you have to look at this industry not to realize that?
No, I don't want to argue. I just want to correct the nonsense that you are spouting. Then it is just not a gift, rip-off, fraud, etc. it is still not. Just pay no money and have a day no gift
Anyone who seriously considers it a scam because an advent calendar promotional offer doesn't seem sufficient as a bonus offer has lost control of their emotions. So I'm talking about you, directly. This is not meant to be a hidden insult or anything else. But a very direct announcement
Coffee Light wrote on 12/19/2018 at 1:56 pm
Uaaaaah, and I really didn't want to get into these over-the-top expressions of loyalty anymore.
Your math with the RTP doesn't hold water.
If the dog hadn't sh**, he would have caught the rabbit...
Since when do you win so that you have a maximum loss of 2 euros? Really funny.
Especially on this slot I have always had total loss so far. Sometimes here and there a few cents, sometimes a euro, that's it.
And then 3 euros on it, which disappear again into nothing anyway, especially with Vera&John?
What you can expect from multi-million dollar companies that live off the tens of millions their customers pay in - and live well - is that you don't get screwed.
That you are not tricked into depositing for 5 or 10% Cashback, or converting anything else to get 10 free spins.
All these promotions are just to get customers to Deposit, knowing full well that they get nothing and nothing from the so-called bonuses. Except for a few exceptions, but they would win even with a pure deposit.
They are not gifts, but bait offers that are simply ridiculous.
It's like someone saying at Christmas, "Here, I have some socks for you. But you'll only get them if you give me 20 euros for them and run around the block ten times, do 30 push-ups and 15 turns on the high bar. If you can do all that in 5 minutes, the socks are yours. But be careful, they will dissolve by themselves after 5 to 20 minutes if you touch them..."
Rip-off, nothing more.
Then better no calendar at all.
i agree with you completely...pure rip-off the calendars, nothing useful in it and I'm used to deposit in a casino which has only garbage in the calendars, they also do not deserve to get 1 cent in the oc where you also get something for free I'm also willing to deposit ....shit marketing earn enough and do not go broke to give a gift but all the Bonuses are all no gifts.
at Rizk I have had so far nothing without deposit
videoslots is not worth the talk because you have to turn certain games 300 times on 0.20 cents to get some shit..which comes out to not even 1 euro
netbet I had once 25 euro but 40 times convert is also there remained
platincasino not even these three men so also nothing
conclusion they do not entice one with it rather scare off because they apparently have it all necessary >:O
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
Nobody has liked this post so far
This post has been translated automatically
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
Nobody has liked this post so far
You rant about casinos and rip offs all the time.
Then what is the deeper meaning of such comments? None.
Just try to understand what it's all about, then you don't have to let such comments go.
I will remind you the next time you complain again.
This post has been translated automatically
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
Liked this post:
Sahip74
The calculation works out at average RTP. Of course, this means that there will be outliers from the statistics, in both directions. Your personal feeling does not play a role
That's exactly what I'm saying, advertising. Imagine that Axe advertising also wants you to buy deodorant. And if Ikea offers an advent calendar, it's also about becoming an Ikea customer. Why should casinos, of all places, give awesome gifts?
Your last paragraph with the gambling is only valid if you call the casino your friend. But then your life would be rather poor
How something that is free can be a rip-off I do not understand. Does someone hold a gun to your head and force you to deposit for 10% cashback? I hope not. If you wanted to play today anyway, 10% cashback is better than not. This has nothing to do with loyalty. I myself don't currently accept deposit offers at all, but why should I complain that they exist. It's really like complaining when Audi offers a Christmas promotion with especially low financing. I don't freak out because the car isn't given to me for free
This post has been translated automatically
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
Nobody has liked this post so far
As a friend? What are you talking about again?
It is not free. If you pay in for a "gift", you don't get a gift. Unless you deposit 20 euros and get, say, 20 euros for free. Or 100 free spins. Something that is worthwhile. Then you can talk about gifts.
Advertising and rip-off are by no means mutually exclusive.
But we both know that you just feel like fighting again. That's the only reason why you react to my posts.
I'm really tired of this constant kindergarten with you.
Your strange calculation examples are wrong, your strange assertions ("...as a friend...") serve again only to become personal and to attach insinuations, which do not even make sense.
The RTP at 30 euros does not guarantee even 10% that you end up with 28 euros. You know that as well as I and everyone else.
But eyewash is nothing new
This post has been translated automatically
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
Liked this post: K****t,
Nickii45
This post has been translated automatically
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
Liked this post:
Sahip74
I have also written nowhere what of guarantee. This is simply the average value. I even wrote that there will be outliers in both directions. And again: What makes you think that a casino is obliged to give you gifts at Advent time? Of course it's advertising, how many times do you have to say that or how strange do you have to look at this industry not to realize that?
No, I don't want to argue. I just want to correct the nonsense that you are spouting. Then it is just not a gift, rip-off, fraud, etc. it is still not. Just pay no money and have a day no gift
Anyone who seriously considers it a scam because an advent calendar promotional offer doesn't seem sufficient as a bonus offer has lost control of their emotions. So I'm talking about you, directly. This is not meant to be a hidden insult or anything else. But a very direct announcement
This post has been translated automatically
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
Nobody has liked this post so far
This post has been translated automatically
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
Nobody has liked this post so far
This post has been translated automatically
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
Nobody has liked this post so far
This post has been translated automatically
Advent calendar and Christmas promotions 2018
Liked this post: K****t,
LooneyTune
i agree with you completely...pure rip-off the calendars, nothing useful in it and I'm used to deposit in a casino which has only garbage in the calendars, they also do not deserve to get 1 cent in the oc where you also get something for free I'm also willing to deposit ....shit marketing earn enough and do not go broke to give a gift but all the Bonuses are all no gifts.
at Rizk I have had so far nothing without deposit
videoslots is not worth the talk because you have to turn certain games 300 times on 0.20 cents to get some shit..which comes out to not even 1 euro
netbet I had once 25 euro but 40 times convert is also there remained
platincasino not even these three men so also nothing
conclusion they do not entice one with it rather scare off because they apparently have it all necessary >:O
This post has been translated automatically