DieWunderharke5000 wrote on 27.05.2025 at 10:25: Like every year, you can argue about the point of relegation. As I see it, the second division team that played a great season and finished third should be promoted. And not the first division team that played a modest season and finished third last.
Stupid system in my opinion.
I see it the same way. Anyone who has played too badly this season should be relegated straight away and that's that. But I prefer Heidenheim in the Bundesliga to Elversberg with their 9,000 spectators. After all, Heidenheim has 15 k
Langhans_innen wrote on May 27th, 2025 at 10:28 am:
Moin Stromi,
but in Iceland and Scandinavia in general, they usually shoot from all cylinders Unfortunately, the bookie also knows this pretty well I have now referred to the classic three-way in my example and the theoretical-calculative differences there are striking. 1.80 to 1.92 - to take one of your examples - is of course also quite meagre in terms of the payout: Another, even more disastrous example would be a 1.80 / 1.80, which is often found in desert kicks or in Kosovo In the big, renowned leagues there is sometimes a 1.94/1.94 as part of a two-way, which is then fair or - if you search and find across providers - a 1.95/2.00 or 1.90/2.05.
As for Paris: phew, you're asking me whether "the stork" will give a set against Tien Learner Answer: I can't say...I think that would be too hot for me. I'd probably look for two close matches and combine two +3.5s to get some odds. The choice is still huge at the moment. I haven't really looked at the French Open yet, so I've only placed one bet. Yesterday it was a 2:0 win by Krejcikova - T.Maria, which I picked because I think nothing of Maria At least that worked out with a Q 1.6 (7:6, 6:3). I'll probably look for a +3.5 with the participation of classic clay court voles today and not try Haraki with 2.6 odds to get in a bit first, even if such high odds sound tempting of course
So 1.94 - 1.94 or something like that will be difficult with the DE bikkies? I remember back in the day at Betsson etc. that was normal for over under in basketball etc.... Well, anyway, as long as there is no displined strategy behind it but rather a cash slip strategy, the odds mentioned are okay for me.
In the meantime, I've come up with the exact opposite of your Risk-reduced approach for today😂
Tien, Duckworth and Norrie all over 0.5 sets to quote approx. 7.3 😄
DieWunderharke5000 wrote on 27.05.2025 at 10:25: Like every year, you can argue about the point of relegation. As I see it, the second division team that played a great season and finished third should be promoted. And not the first division team that played a modest season and finished third last.
Stupid system in my opinion.
If you apply it to the old system, I understand the point.
How would you talk if only the top two had been promoted before? I think the view would be different then. You'd say "It's stupid that the third-last team has to play a relegation play-off. They played well enough to be allowed to stay in the league." or "It's great that there's a relegation because it gives the third-placed team in the second division the chance to be promoted."
I think it always depends from which perspective you look at it. Cool, the first division team might still be able to stay in the league. Stupid, the second division team would have deserved it too.
I would have liked to see Elversberg in the first division.
So 1.94 - 1.94 or something like that will be difficult with the DE Bikkies? I remember that used to be normal for over under in basketball etc at Betsson etc... Well, anyway, as long as there is no displined strategy behind it but rather a strategy cash slip, the odds mentioned are okay for me.
In the meantime, I've come up with the exact opposite of your Risk-reduced approach for today😂
Tien, Duckworth and Norrie all over 0.5 sets to quote approx. 7.3 😄
"Strategy checkout slip" sounds bold Winamax sometimes has a 1.94-1.94 or a 1.92-1.96 in tennis...you just have to wait for it and it doesn't happen all the time. To find such (or if possible even better) constellations, I usually compare 10 or more providers with each other. Then you can, for example, take one Winamax odds as a base value and find an even higher equivalent with another because the bookie assesses the balance of power differently. It just takes time and it's not uncommon to find nothing at all, which is why you end up wasting your life In any case, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you today - whether disciplined or not
Rainmann wrote on 27.05.2025 at 10:40 am: But I prefer Heidenheim in the Bundesliga to Elversberg with their 9 thousand spectators. Heidenheim at least 15 k
I'll keep my fingers crossed for Schalke next season, they're just over 15k .
If only the fans were relevant, they would play in the Champions League every year.
Even if Schalke no longer have the charisma of recent years, I'd like to see them playing at the top again, I miss them in the Bundesliga.
If you relate it to the old system I get the point.
How would you talk if only the top two had been promoted before? I think the view would be different then. You'd say "It's stupid that the third-last team has to play a relegation play-off. They played well enough to be allowed to stay in the league." or "It's great that there's a relegation because it gives the third-placed team in the second division the chance to be promoted."
I think it always depends from which perspective you look at it. Cool, the first division team can still possibly stay in the league. Stupid, the second division team would have deserved it too.
I would have liked to see Elversberg in the first division.
Elversberg in League One would have been something 😂
But let's be honest, Spiesen-Elversberg, that's like TSG Wixhausen in League 1 (it really exists) 😂😂
As one of the few who was there (from this forum) for soccer, years ago, I can still say the following, that would be too much of a good thing, yes it would be well deserved and of course you wouldn't have the problem that the DB would be late, because they don't even have a train station there (by the way, even Hoffenheim had that, so Hoffenheim when they actually played in Hoffenheim and not in Heidelberg), but please 😂
Relegation should clearly be abolished, including the promotion relegation for League 3.
It's telling that the Braunschweig players in Saarbrücken were so transparent in their call to "abolish relegation": ☝️ the top three go up, the bottom three go down, the Bayern regional league is split up so that there are only four regional leagues (as in the past) and the champions go up and the bottom four go down to the third division...
1:3 or 2:4 for Saarbrücken today? What do you think? Hopefully Alois won't set them up to be totally stupid again with his incomprehensible match plan 🤔
Dutch78 wrote on 27.05.2025 at 11:20 am:
I'll keep my fingers crossed for Schalke next season.they are just over 15 k .
If only the fans were relevant, they would play in the Champions League every year.
Even if Schalke no longer have the charisma of recent years, I'd like to see them playing at the top again, I miss them in the Bundesliga.
Schalke must also go up again. It's just like HSV and Cologne, who fortunately made it 😁
Druff wrote on 27.05.2025 at 11:24 am:
Elversberg in league one would have been something 😂
But honestly, Spiesen-Elversberg, that's like TSG Wixhausen in League 1 (it really exists) 😂😂
As one of the few who was there (from this forum) for soccer, years ago, I can still say the following, that would be too much of a good thing, yes it would be well deserved and of course you wouldn't have the problem that the DB would be late, because they don't even have a train station there (by the way, even Hoffenheim had that, so Hoffenheim when they actually played in Hoffenheim and not in Heidelberg), but please 😂
Relegation should clearly be abolished, including the promotion relegation for League 3.
It's telling that the Braunschweig players in Saarbrücken were so transparent in their call to "abolish relegation": ☝️ the top three go up, the bottom three go down, the Bayern regional league is split up so that there are only four regional leagues (as in the past) and the champions go up and the bottom four go down to the third division...
1:3 or 2:4 for Saarbrücken today? What do you think? Hopefully Alois won't set them up to be totally stupid again with his incomprehensible match plan 🤔
Heidenheim in the first division isn't that cool either. But I think you just have to get away from the romanticism of soccer. For many, Schalke, Lautern and so on belong in the first division. Simply because of the names. In sporting terms, they don't belong there at all.
But why do you want the top 3 to get promoted? Why not just the first or the top 2? Why not 4?
I still think it's always a question of how you look at it. There are one or two people from Stuttgart here. I think they think the relegation is very cool too. Without the relegation, they would have been relegated and therefore logically would not have finished in second place the following season. Ok vlt already 2nd place but then in the 2nd league. They wouldn't have played in the Champions League last season and whether they would have got that far in the cup is also questionable because the conditions would have been different. I am very sure that there is no club that has benefited so much from the relegation in such a short time.
Again, HSV would certainly have been happy if there had been no relegation and only three teams had been promoted. HSV would have been back in the first division much sooner.
As for the demands of the Braunschweig fans, it's silly anyway. If they end up staying in because of it, they'll take it with them and celebrate it. Moreover, it's just stupid from their point of view to demand that.
I don't know the financial aspects of the 2nd and 3rd division. But the management of Braunschweig will also be happy that there is a relegation. It means they can still stay in and probably have a bit more money at their disposal.
I think Eintracht Braunschweig will also win the second leg.
Heidenheim in the first is not that cool now. But I think you just have to get away from the romanticism of soccer. For many, Schalke, Lautern and so on belong in the first division. Simply because of the names. In sporting terms, they don't belong there at all.
But why do you want the top 3 to get promoted? Why not just the first or the top 2? Why not 4?
I still think it's always a question of which way you look at it. There are one or two people from Stuttgart here. I think they think the relegation is very cool too. Without the relegation, they would have been relegated and therefore logically would not have finished in second place the following season. Ok vlt already 2nd place but then in the 2nd league. They wouldn't have played in the Champions League last season and whether they would have got that far in the cup is also questionable because the conditions would have been different. I am very sure that there is no club that has benefited so much from the relegation in such a short time.
Again, HSV would certainly have been happy if there had been no relegation and only three teams had been promoted. HSV would have been back in the first division much sooner.
As for the demands of the Braunschweig fans, it's silly anyway. If they end up staying in because of it, they'll take it with them and celebrate it. Moreover, it's just stupid from their point of view to demand that.
I don't know the financial aspects of the 2nd and 3rd division. But the management of Braunschweig will also be happy that there is a relegation. It means they can still stay in and probably have a bit more money at their disposal.
I think Eintracht Braunschweig will also win the second leg.
Of course, Heidenheim isn't great either, just like Hoffenheim and even Leipzig, yes, you should get away from this soccer nostalgia, but without this nostalgia, soccer would be like the NBA or NFL. Why is it always Schalke, Hertha or Lautern? Waldhof Mannheim, Kickers Offenbach, Hansa, Alemannia, Saarbrücken, even Hessen Kassel, there are countless clubs that have disappeared into oblivion for many reasons (that was nostalgic) 😅😁
Well, why the first three and not the first four or two? So I think three up and three down with 18 teams is okay in League 3 the first three up and four down with 20 teams is also appropriate, otherwise the flood action would simply be too high, there would be virtually no midfield and planning security ...
My opinion is that whoever is in the bottom three after 34 match days simply doesn't deserve to stay in, and to then offer them a rescue package, so to speak, is wrong, we were promoted to the second division in the relegation against Bielefeld (most exciting relegation of all time, decision in the 120+2 minute game), followed by the march through to the Bundesliga with, by far, the smallest budget in the league, to be able to save a season in two games is not in the spirit of the performance idea, quite simply ☝️
Of course it depends on how you look at it, but if you look at it that way, why not have a closed league system without promotion and relegation? And instead of a championship after 34 match days, everything to zero and playoffs for the top eight and every place in the table is then ultimately fought out in deciding matches.
I dare to doubt whether HSV would have been so happy if there had been no relegation, after all they would have been relegated a few years earlier, but as you can see, postponed is not canceled 😁
Of course, the Braunschweig fans will be happy about it and will ultimately take it with thanks, provided they stay in the top flight, but there are certainly some who will take it with them, but still see it critically, and certainly those who demand it would not cry more if they had gone down without relegation than with ☝️
You call it stupid, I would call it conviction and consistency ☝️ It's clear that the officials of the sixteenth team are of course always in favor of relegation, but in the end relegation is only postponed and not canceled.
I think, hope and assume that Saarbrücken will turn it around, an early goal and the pressure will be on, Alois Schwartz set Saarbrücken up wrong and made the totally insecure and dead Braunschweig team strong in the first 45 minutes of the first leg ☝️ Even an early goal by Braunschweig would be better than a long 0:0 ☝️sollte Braunschweig keep the class, they can thank the Saarbrücken coach ☝️
Tien, Duckworth and Norrie all over 0.5 sets to quote ca 7.3 😄
I decided to go for + 3.5 sets for Arnaldi - Auger-Alliasime (1.43). I think/hope that nobody is strong enough to win this in 3 sets. In addition, K. Volynets wins against Garland (1.35). I don't know why Garland should win this...so far almost exclusively active at ITF level and entered the main draw as a qualifier. Whether and what else is conceivable tonight, I'll leave open for now.
Langhans_innen wrote on 27.05.2025 at 14:19: Whether and what else would be conceivable tonight, I leave open for the time being.
Does your wife know that?
I'll go with the rest of you, it's still a close 2 and therefore playable for me.
Are you also betting on the Religation tonight?
I'll take the over 1.5 goals at half-time, odds are currently 2.6.
I wonder if that doesn't cause Elv to lose heart? They're actually already leading 2:1, concede the goal after 5 minutes and then get a goal like that in the NSZ. You have to recover from that first
Of course Heidenheim is not plump either, just like Hoffenheim and even Leipzig, yes vlt you should get rid of this soccer nostalgia, but without this nostalgia soccer would be like the NBA or NFL.... Why is it always Schalke, Hertha or Lautern? Waldhof Mannheim, Kickers Offenbach, Hansa, Alemannia, Saarbrücken, even Hessen Kassel, there are countless clubs that have disappeared into oblivion for many reasons (that was nostalgic) 😅😁
Well, why the first three and not the first four or two? So I think three up and three down with 18 teams is okay in League 3 the first three up and four down with 20 teams is also appropriate, otherwise the flood action would simply be too high, there would be virtually no midfield and planning security ...
My opinion is that whoever is in the bottom three after 34 match days simply doesn't deserve to stay in, and to then offer them a rescue package, so to speak, is wrong, we were promoted to the second division in the relegation against Bielefeld (most exciting relegation of all time, decision in the 120+2 minute game), followed by the march through to the Bundesliga with by far the smallest budget in the league, to be able to save a season in two games is not in the spirit of the performance idea, quite simply ☝️
Of course it depends on how you look at it, but if you look at it that way, why not have a closed league system without promotion and relegation? And instead of a championship after 34 match days, everything to zero and playoffs for the top eight and every place in the table is then ultimately fought out in deciding matches.
I dare to doubt whether HSV would have been so happy if there had been no relegation, after all they would have been relegated a few years earlier, but as you can see, postponed is not canceled 😁
Of course, the Braunschweig fans will be happy about it and will ultimately take it with thanks, provided they stay in the top flight, but there are certainly some who will take it with them, but still see it critically, and certainly those who demand it would not cry more if they had gone down without relegation than with ☝️
You call it stupid, I would call it conviction and consistency ☝️ It's clear that the officials of the sixteenth team are of course always in favor of relegation, but in the end relegation is only postponed and not canceled.
I think, hope and assume that Saarbrücken will still turn it around, an early goal and the pressure will be on, Alois Schwartz set Saarbrücken up wrong and made the totally insecure and dead Braunschweig team strong in the first 45 minutes of the first leg ☝️ Even an early goal by Braunschweig would be better than a long 0:0 ☝️sollte Braunschweig keep the class, they can thank the Saarbrücken coach ☝️
There are sooo many clubs you'd love to see at the top again, just for the romance.
I think the 3 is simply because you're used to it. If you would always relegate the last 5 in the next 80 years, in 80 years no rooster would crow that there used to be 3. At some point you get to a point where people just don't know any different.
Well, of course you somehow save the season in 2 games, but it takes 34 match days to get to that point. You could also be 17th and get relegated straight away. Why doesn't the 4th-placed team complain that they can't play a relegation play-off and 3 get promoted directly? I think it's simply because you're still stuck with the old system. It's also kind of crap if you play a good season and only just finish 4th. It's always a bit of a bummer for those who just miss out and good for those who just make it.
Theoretically, you can do that with the playoffs. It's not that rare now that there are extra games. CL was also one of those things. Many were skeptical at the beginning. In the meantime, many people like the system. People always have a hard time with change.
Yes, exactly. Hamburg would have been eliminated twice, but they would have been promoted twice. A good example of how relegation can be good and bad for a club. As I said, Stuttgart benefited incredibly from it. Looking back now.
Why do you think that relegation would have been postponed instead of canceled? Do you see it the same way for VfB Stuttgart?
But who is holding it up? Are they the fans who love their club so much? Why do they want the club to be relegated? They might have to give up players that they actually like. How can you want that as a fan? I find that incredibly stupid. As a fan of Braunschweig, I would be so grateful for the chance that my club could still stay in the league. From the point of view of Elversberg or Saarbrücken, I could understand it, but sooo...that makes 0 sense.
I'll go with the rest of you, it's still a close 2 and therefore playable for me.
Are you also predicting the Religation tonight?
I'll take the over 1.5 goals at half-time, odds are currently 2.6.
Clear your throat....it's been a few days since I took care of the evening planning with (my) wife, but if she should walk in the door again, it would be great if she ideally also wanted to watch tennis Then we'd always have an exciting topic for dinner. But it's not a condition: I also like to watch Dreamboat with her, if it's the right one No, so relegation...I don't think I'd have a good hand there today. So no experiments on my part. Good luck with the tennis doubles: the demonstration effect will probably strike mercilessly and demystify the whole thing, but let's take our chances
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I see it the same way. Anyone who has played too badly this season should be relegated straight away and that's that. But I prefer Heidenheim in the Bundesliga to Elversberg with their 9,000 spectators. After all, Heidenheim has 15 k
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So 1.94 - 1.94 or something like that will be difficult with the DE bikkies? I remember back in the day at Betsson etc. that was normal for over under in basketball etc.... Well, anyway, as long as there is no displined strategy behind it but rather a cash slip strategy, the odds mentioned are okay for me.
In the meantime, I've come up with the exact opposite of your Risk-reduced approach for today😂
Tien, Duckworth and Norrie all over 0.5 sets to quote approx. 7.3 😄
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If you apply it to the old system, I understand the point.
How would you talk if only the top two had been promoted before? I think the view would be different then. You'd say "It's stupid that the third-last team has to play a relegation play-off. They played well enough to be allowed to stay in the league." or "It's great that there's a relegation because it gives the third-placed team in the second division the chance to be promoted."
I think it always depends from which perspective you look at it. Cool, the first division team might still be able to stay in the league. Stupid, the second division team would have deserved it too.
I would have liked to see Elversberg in the first division.
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"Strategy checkout slip" sounds bold Winamax sometimes has a 1.94-1.94 or a 1.92-1.96 in tennis...you just have to wait for it and it doesn't happen all the time. To find such (or if possible even better) constellations, I usually compare 10 or more providers with each other. Then you can, for example, take one Winamax odds as a base value and find an even higher equivalent with another because the bookie assesses the balance of power differently. It just takes time and it's not uncommon to find nothing at all, which is why you end up wasting your life In any case, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you today - whether disciplined or not
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I'll keep my fingers crossed for Schalke next season, they're just over 15k .
If only the fans were relevant, they would play in the Champions League every year.
Even if Schalke no longer have the charisma of recent years, I'd like to see them playing at the top again, I miss them in the Bundesliga.
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Elversberg in League One would have been something 😂
But let's be honest, Spiesen-Elversberg, that's like TSG Wixhausen in League 1 (it really exists) 😂😂
As one of the few who was there (from this forum) for soccer, years ago, I can still say the following, that would be too much of a good thing, yes it would be well deserved and of course you wouldn't have the problem that the DB would be late, because they don't even have a train station there (by the way, even Hoffenheim had that, so Hoffenheim when they actually played in Hoffenheim and not in Heidelberg), but please 😂
Relegation should clearly be abolished, including the promotion relegation for League 3.
It's telling that the Braunschweig players in Saarbrücken were so transparent in their call to "abolish relegation": ☝️ the top three go up, the bottom three go down, the Bayern regional league is split up so that there are only four regional leagues (as in the past) and the champions go up and the bottom four go down to the third division...
1:3 or 2:4 for Saarbrücken today? What do you think? Hopefully Alois won't set them up to be totally stupid again with his incomprehensible match plan 🤔
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Schalke must also go up again. It's just like HSV and Cologne, who fortunately made it 😁
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Heidenheim in the first division isn't that cool either. But I think you just have to get away from the romanticism of soccer. For many, Schalke, Lautern and so on belong in the first division. Simply because of the names. In sporting terms, they don't belong there at all.
But why do you want the top 3 to get promoted? Why not just the first or the top 2? Why not 4?
I still think it's always a question of how you look at it. There are one or two people from Stuttgart here. I think they think the relegation is very cool too. Without the relegation, they would have been relegated and therefore logically would not have finished in second place the following season. Ok vlt already 2nd place but then in the 2nd league. They wouldn't have played in the Champions League last season and whether they would have got that far in the cup is also questionable because the conditions would have been different. I am very sure that there is no club that has benefited so much from the relegation in such a short time.
Again, HSV would certainly have been happy if there had been no relegation and only three teams had been promoted. HSV would have been back in the first division much sooner.
As for the demands of the Braunschweig fans, it's silly anyway. If they end up staying in because of it, they'll take it with them and celebrate it. Moreover, it's just stupid from their point of view to demand that.
I don't know the financial aspects of the 2nd and 3rd division. But the management of Braunschweig will also be happy that there is a relegation. It means they can still stay in and probably have a bit more money at their disposal.
I think Eintracht Braunschweig will also win the second leg.
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Of course, Heidenheim isn't great either, just like Hoffenheim and even Leipzig, yes, you should get away from this soccer nostalgia, but without this nostalgia, soccer would be like the NBA or NFL. Why is it always Schalke, Hertha or Lautern? Waldhof Mannheim, Kickers Offenbach, Hansa, Alemannia, Saarbrücken, even Hessen Kassel, there are countless clubs that have disappeared into oblivion for many reasons (that was nostalgic) 😅😁
Well, why the first three and not the first four or two? So I think three up and three down with 18 teams is okay in League 3 the first three up and four down with 20 teams is also appropriate, otherwise the flood action would simply be too high, there would be virtually no midfield and planning security ...
My opinion is that whoever is in the bottom three after 34 match days simply doesn't deserve to stay in, and to then offer them a rescue package, so to speak, is wrong, we were promoted to the second division in the relegation against Bielefeld (most exciting relegation of all time, decision in the 120+2 minute game), followed by the march through to the Bundesliga with, by far, the smallest budget in the league, to be able to save a season in two games is not in the spirit of the performance idea, quite simply ☝️
Of course it depends on how you look at it, but if you look at it that way, why not have a closed league system without promotion and relegation? And instead of a championship after 34 match days, everything to zero and playoffs for the top eight and every place in the table is then ultimately fought out in deciding matches.
I dare to doubt whether HSV would have been so happy if there had been no relegation, after all they would have been relegated a few years earlier, but as you can see, postponed is not canceled 😁
Of course, the Braunschweig fans will be happy about it and will ultimately take it with thanks, provided they stay in the top flight, but there are certainly some who will take it with them, but still see it critically, and certainly those who demand it would not cry more if they had gone down without relegation than with ☝️
You call it stupid, I would call it conviction and consistency ☝️ It's clear that the officials of the sixteenth team are of course always in favor of relegation, but in the end relegation is only postponed and not canceled.
I think, hope and assume that Saarbrücken will turn it around, an early goal and the pressure will be on, Alois Schwartz set Saarbrücken up wrong and made the totally insecure and dead Braunschweig team strong in the first 45 minutes of the first leg ☝️ Even an early goal by Braunschweig would be better than a long 0:0 ☝️sollte Braunschweig keep the class, they can thank the Saarbrücken coach ☝️
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Yes, and I hope both of them stay in the first division for longer this time.
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I decided to go for + 3.5 sets for Arnaldi - Auger-Alliasime (1.43). I think/hope that nobody is strong enough to win this in 3 sets. In addition, K. Volynets wins against Garland (1.35). I don't know why Garland should win this...so far almost exclusively active at ITF level and entered the main draw as a qualifier. Whether and what else is conceivable tonight, I'll leave open for now.
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Does your wife know that?
I'll go with the rest of you, it's still a close 2 and therefore playable for me.
Are you also betting on the Religation tonight?
I'll take the over 1.5 goals at half-time, odds are currently 2.6.
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There are sooo many clubs you'd love to see at the top again, just for the romance.
I think the 3 is simply because you're used to it. If you would always relegate the last 5 in the next 80 years, in 80 years no rooster would crow that there used to be 3. At some point you get to a point where people just don't know any different.
Well, of course you somehow save the season in 2 games, but it takes 34 match days to get to that point. You could also be 17th and get relegated straight away. Why doesn't the 4th-placed team complain that they can't play a relegation play-off and 3 get promoted directly? I think it's simply because you're still stuck with the old system. It's also kind of crap if you play a good season and only just finish 4th. It's always a bit of a bummer for those who just miss out and good for those who just make it.
Theoretically, you can do that with the playoffs. It's not that rare now that there are extra games. CL was also one of those things. Many were skeptical at the beginning. In the meantime, many people like the system. People always have a hard time with change.
Yes, exactly. Hamburg would have been eliminated twice, but they would have been promoted twice. A good example of how relegation can be good and bad for a club. As I said, Stuttgart benefited incredibly from it. Looking back now.
Why do you think that relegation would have been postponed instead of canceled? Do you see it the same way for VfB Stuttgart?
But who is holding it up? Are they the fans who love their club so much? Why do they want the club to be relegated? They might have to give up players that they actually like. How can you want that as a fan? I find that incredibly stupid. As a fan of Braunschweig, I would be so grateful for the chance that my club could still stay in the league. From the point of view of Elversberg or Saarbrücken, I could understand it, but sooo...that makes 0 sense.
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Clear your throat....it's been a few days since I took care of the evening planning with (my) wife, but if she should walk in the door again, it would be great if she ideally also wanted to watch tennis Then we'd always have an exciting topic for dinner. But it's not a condition: I also like to watch Dreamboat with her, if it's the right one No, so relegation...I don't think I'd have a good hand there today. So no experiments on my part. Good luck with the tennis doubles: the demonstration effect will probably strike mercilessly and demystify the whole thing, but let's take our chances
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