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Sports betting in general: i feel ripped off

Topic created on 27th May. 2025 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 33 | Views: 1,680
bonushunter97
Amateur

i feel ripped off

27th May. 2025, at 03:04 am CEST#1
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i've just realized that i've been massively fooled by the odds for goal scorers. the odds are always a lot higher at williamhill. recently barcelona yamal 2.1 at Bet365 and williamhill 2.7. ramos once had 7 and at willhill 9.5. that makes a lot of money at the end of the day with high bets.
that's usurious what many people keep. tipico was even lower with 1.9 at yamal. i never paid attention to it, i'm sure a lot of money has accumulated over the years... i'm really angry.

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Druff
Experienced

i feel ripped off

27th May. 2025, at 05:06 am CEST#2
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You accept the odds of 2.1 for Yamal's goal ... and bet on it.

Then at some point you had odds of 7 for Ramos' goal... accept and bet on it...

Tipico you have odds of 1.9 for Yamal's goal... you don't accept and don't bet on it...

So where have you been taken for a ride or even ripped off? You accepted the odds that were there, you even compared the odds and chose the best one at 2.1 🤦🤷

And what do you mean by "there must have been a lot of money accumulated over the years"? If it has accumulated somewhere, just book it off and have it paid out 🤷

No idea what you're mad about ☝️

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Langhans_innen
Elite

i feel ripped off

27th May. 2025, at 10:45 am CEST#3
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bonushunter97 wrote on 27.05.2025 at 03:04: I've just realized that I've been massively screwed with odds on goalscorers. at williamhill the odds are always a lot higher. recently barcelona yamal 2.1 at Bet365 and williamhill 2.7. ramos I once had 7 and at willhill 9.5. that makes a lot of money at the end of the day with high bets.
that's usurious what many people keep. tipico was even lower with 1.9 at yamal. i never paid attention to it, i'm sure a lot of money has accumulated over the years... i'm really angry.

It's understandable that you're angry because you've left a lot of money lying around over the years. But it's not the fault of any bookmaker in the world (not even Tipico) if you haven't compared the odds on the market adequately and have opted for weak providers. Everyone offers their odds and you can accept them or not. However, the insight is still positive: if you invest a little more time in research in the future, this means cash for the customer and you can only benefit from this

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Patizi
Legend

i feel ripped off

27th May. 2025, at 10:59 am CEST#4
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Druff wrote on 27.05.2025 at 05:06: You accept the odds of 2.1 for Yamal's goal ... and bet on it.

Then at some point you had odds of 7 for Ramos to score... accept and bet on it....

Tipico you have odds of 1.9 for Yamal's goal... you don't accept and don't bet on it...

So where have you been taken for a ride or even ripped off? You accepted the odds that were there, you even compared the odds and chose the best one at 2.1 🤦🤷

And what do you mean by "there must have been a lot of money accumulated over the years"? If it has accumulated somewhere, just book it off and have it paid out 🤷

No idea what you're mad about ☝️

I couldn't have explained it better myself.

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bonushunter97
Amateur

i feel ripped off

27th May. 2025, at 11:57 am CEST#5
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@druff @patizi you are beautiful birds!

i realize that there are fluctuations, but they should be within the usual odds key. Bet365 usually has good odds so I never thought there would be such huge differences. At Tipico 1.9 and at Bet365 2.1 is totally okay, but between 1.9 and 2.7 that falls under WUCHER.

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Druff
Experienced

i feel ripped off

27th May. 2025, at 12:09 pm CEST#6
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bonushunter97 wrote on May 27, 2025 at 11:57 am: @druff @patizi you are beautiful birds!

i realize that there are fluctuations, but they should be within the usual odds key. Bet365 usually has good odds so I never thought there would be such huge differences. At Tipico 1.9 and at Bet365 2.1 is totally okay, but between 1.9 and 2.7 that falls under WUCHER.

Yes, then you know better now, that there are better odds with unregulated providers (William Hill) is well known, and you could have if not should have known it... the only one you should/could be really angry with is yourself 🤷


Patizi wrote on 05/27/2025 10:59 AM:

I couldn't have explained it better.

Haha thanks it's just like that 😅

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Butterbrezel
Elite

i feel ripped off

27th May. 2025, at 08:04 pm CEST#7
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bonushunter97 wrote on May 27, 2025 at 11:57 am: @druff @patizi you are beautiful birds!

i realize that there are fluctuations, but they should be within the usual odds key. Bet365 usually has good odds so I never thought there would be such huge differences. At Tipico 1.9 and at Bet365 2.1 is totally okay, but between 1.9 and 2.7 that falls under WUCHER.

Well, no.


For Over / Under bets with a certain 50 / 50 outcome, the fluctuation can of course not be that high. For a goalscorer bet, the bookmakers' assessment can vary considerably.

Perhaps the 1.9 is not usurious, but the 2.7 is simply too good?
Just as 10.0 is perhaps realistic, but the other bookmaker makes a top offer at 20.0.

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roccoammo11
Expert

i feel ripped off

27th May. 2025, at 10:15 pm CEST#8
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bonushunter97 wrote on 27.05.2025 at 03:04: I've just realized that I've been massively screwed with odds on goalscorers. at williamhill the odds are always a lot higher. recently barcelona yamal 2.1 at Bet365 and williamhill 2.7. ramos I once had 7 and at willhill 9.5. that makes a lot of money at the end of the day with high bets.
that's usurious what many people keep. tipico was even lower with 1.9 at yamal. i never paid attention to it, i'm sure a lot of money has accumulated over the years... i'm really angry.

If you fill up at the wrong time for years, you pay quite a bit more than if you pay attention.


since you will probably lose most of your bets anyway, it would of course be better to win a little more money if your bet is successful. As has already been written, you saw what you could win on website XYZ before placing the bet and you seem to have been satisfied with it when you placed the bet. Where the odds are much higher, probably not many players have bet on it. There are pros and cons everywhere.

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bonushunter97
Amateur

i feel ripped off

29th May. 2025, at 01:05 pm CEST#9
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Butterbrezel wrote on May 27, 2025 at 8:04 pm:
Well, no.


For Over / Under bets with a certain 50 / 50 outcome, the fluctuation can of course not be that high. For a goalscorer bet, the bookmakers' assessment can differ significantly.

Perhaps the 1.9 is not usurious, but the 2.7 is simply too good?
Just like 10.0 is perhaps realistic, but the other bookmaker makes a top offer at 20.0.

there are no odds that are too good because the bookmakers are always on the longer end of the stick

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bonushunter97
Amateur

i feel ripped off

29th May. 2025, at 01:06 pm CEST#10
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Druff wrote on May 27th, 2025 at 12:09 pm:
Haha thanks it's just like that 😅

well for knowing everything better, calling williamhill unregulated is a bit of a misnomer. it's one of the biggest providers in the world.

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bonushunter97
Amateur

i feel ripped off

29th May. 2025, at 01:10 pm CEST#11
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roccoammo11 wrote on May 27, 2025 at 10:15 pm:

If you drive for years at the wrong time to refuel you already pay quite a bit more than if you pay attention.


since you will probably lose most of your bets anyway, it would of course be better to win a little more money if your bet is successful. As has already been written, you saw what you could win on website XYZ before placing the bet and you seem to have been satisfied with it when you placed the bet. Where the odds are much higher, probably not many players have bet on it. There are pros and cons everywhere.

i don't give a shit about the few cents at the gas station, it's about 1-2€ per tank.


i'm a High Roller - i play 1000€ minimum per bet - so it makes a huge difference whether i get 1.9 or 2.7. with 1.9 instead of 2.1 i'd be fine, but 80% less win is usurious and should be banned. i didn't gamble in a backwater shack. Bet365 stands for high odds in general.

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frapi07
Legend

i feel ripped off

29th May. 2025, at 01:58 pm CEST#12
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bonushunter97 wrote on May 29, 2025 at 1:10 pm:

i don't give a shit about the few cents at the gas station, it's about 1-2€ per tank.


i am a highroller - play 1000€ minimum per bet - so it makes a huge difference whether i get 1.9 or 2.7. with 1.9 instead of 2.1 i would be fine, but 80% less win is usurious and should be banned. i didn't gamble in a back-world shack. Bet365 stands for high odds in general.

Just pick the best offer and that's it. It's the same with all other things in life. Store X has items for €100 and store Y for €110. But that's not a rip-off.

Incidentally, the few cents add up quickly and make a big difference. You just have to be a bit strategic here. Fill up before the Whitsun vacations so that you don't do it during the vacations, etc.

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Druff
Experienced

i feel ripped off

29th May. 2025, at 02:33 pm CEST#13
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bonushunter97 wrote on May 29, 2025 at 1:06 pm:

well for the fact that you know everything better, calling williamhill unregulated is a bit of a misnomer. this is one of the largest providers worldwide.

You're really not very bright ...


You'd better look at the meaning of the word unregulated again 👍 you mastermind 😁

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Druff
Experienced

i feel ripped off

29th May. 2025, at 02:48 pm CEST#14
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frapi07 wrote on 29.05.2025 at 13:58:

Just pick the best deal and be good. It's the same with all other things in life. Store X has items for €100 and store Y for €110. But that's not a rip-off.

Incidentally, the few cents add up quickly and make a big difference. You just have to be a bit strategic here. Fill up before the Whitsun vacations so that you don't do it during the vacations, etc.

But of course that's a rip-off, old man, listen to the super awesome High Roller 😁😅😅😅

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bonushunter97
Amateur

i feel ripped off

29th May. 2025, at 03:49 pm CEST#15
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frapi07 wrote on May 29, 2025 at 1:58 pm:

Just pick the best deal and be good. It's the same with all other things in life. Store X has items for €100 and store Y for €110. But that's not a rip-off.

Incidentally, the few cents add up quickly and make a big difference. You just have to be a little strategic here. Fill up before the Whitsun vacations so that you don't do it during the vacations, etc.

you're a penny-pincher - that doesn't help at all.


of course it's also a rip-off in the legal sense. look up usury. 30% surcharge above the market rate is usurious.

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