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All about sports: Tour de France

Topic created on 29th Jun. 2023 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 12 | Views: 950
Andre
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29th Jun. 2023, at 01:22 pm CEST#1
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France has other problems right now, but the Tour de France starts this weekend. Who watches it from you?

I was very skeptical for a long time, but last year I watched a few stages and found it really exciting. This year, the duel between Vingegaard and Pogacar (both 2.1 odds) is the dominant theme. I'll definitely watch it.

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Donnie
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29th Jun. 2023, at 02:26 pm CEST#2
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I find that completely uninteresting. Besides, almost every winner was doped anyway. Doping sport just, which makes the whole thing a farce. The only cyclists I knew in my life were Jan Ullrich, Erik Zabel and Lance Armstrong, well a neighbor is also such a one. I have bet a few times in life when, for example, a stage is pending and the odds of the favorite differs significantly from the other drivers, you can also do in winter sports

I like the French people, at least they don't put up with everything from the state like the German Michel and Alibaba people

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bruffl
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29th Jun. 2023, at 05:01 pm CEST#3
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i look forward to the Tour every year, whether and how much doping still goes on, I don't know.
If it is possible to do so without being exposed, I'm sure most riders will ride at the limit.

The mountain finishes are of course the most exciting, at the same time I find it nice to experience France from this perspective.

The odds for Pogacar and Vingegaard are the same, but the experts see Pogacar as the favorite......

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upola
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29th Jun. 2023, at 05:51 pm CEST#4
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There's too much doping going on.

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refucs
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29th Jun. 2023, at 07:39 pm CEST#5
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Long years of cycling intensively followed, especially of course at Ullrich/Armstrong times, really cool. But also the last decade with Contador, Froome, Nibali, Sagan and co... Eigenlich all major tours intensively followed also Giro and Vuelta. Tour last year also, Vingegaard was strong, hope he can repeat this year.

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Donnie
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29th Jun. 2023, at 08:24 pm CEST#6
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refucs wrote on 29.06.2023 at 19:39: Long years of cycling intensively followed, especially of course at Ullrich/Armstrong times, really cool. But also the last decade with Contador, Froome, Nibali, Sagan and co... Eigenlich all big tours intensively followed also Giro and Vuelta. Tour last year too, Vingegaard was strong, hope he can repeat that this year.

Obviously you like the sport, what was it for a feeling when it turned out that the winners were doped? Personally, I would have felt totally screwed and never watched that crap again. All the dopers have massively damaged this sport and the honest riders

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refucs
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29th Jun. 2023, at 08:38 pm CEST#7
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Donnie wrote on 06/29/2023 at 8:24 pm:

Obviously you like the sport, how did it feel when it turned out the winners were doped? Personally I would have felt totally screwed and never watched that crap again. All the dopers have massively damaged this sport and the honest riders

That had always been clear to me, even back then. In the top 50 of the GC all have done something, so I see it like Ulle: He has cheated no one, because all the others have done the same. The spectator is the stupid if the naive and believe it would all be clean.


Is ne idle discussion, but you can stay away if you do not want to see that.

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Donnie
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29th Jun. 2023, at 08:42 pm CEST#8
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refucs wrote on 29.06.2023 at 20:38:

That had always been clear to me, even back then. In the top 50 of the GC all have done something, so I see it like Ulle: He has cheated no one, because all the others have done the same. The viewer is the stupid if the naive and believe it would all be clean.


Is ne idle discussion, but you can stay away if you do not want to see that.

Since you can also allow doping for all and then the riders can hit purely. Would it have been possible to keep up without doping? Simply test the first 10 places and the doping would perhaps be over

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Blubbo33
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29th Jun. 2023, at 09:48 pm CEST#9
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The only great thing about it are the landscapes !

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Patizi
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30th Jun. 2023, at 08:16 am CEST#10
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I don't know as much about it as I did back then, but can someone explain to me why Vingegaard gets a 15 quota on the first stage? Among the top 3, you still get a 3.5 for the guy.

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DieWunderharke5000
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30th Jun. 2023, at 09:51 am CEST#11
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"182 hilly kilometers around Bilbao will be a hard slog for the riders - the stage is tantamount to a one-day classic. Those who want to win should take a close look at the Côte de Pike ten kilometers before the finish - here a strong soloist could break away and start a solo ride to the finish."

That's what Sportschau says. Could speak for the fact that perhaps a Spaniard wants to get the victory on the first day at home and tries to break away. First stage always something special anyway.

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refucs
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30th Jun. 2023, at 04:57 pm CEST#12
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Patizi wrote on 30.06.2023 at 08:16: I don't know as much about it as I did back then, but can someone explain to me why Vingegaard gets a 15 quota on the first stage? In the top 3 you still get a 3.5 for the guy.

Because that's not his profile and there are other specialists and as I said, it's the first stage, so the GC people don't Risk their skin and hair on the first day of 3 weeks.

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roccoammo11
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1st Jul. 2023, at 05:20 am CEST#13
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i admit I'm happy at every mass crash! not because people get hurt but that's always such a highlight and just the sprint to the end ... I would so hurt the balls if I as long as a saddle would cycle around but respect to the drug-free athletes who pull through!

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