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All about sports: Documentations (Page 4)

Topic created on 13th Jun. 2023 | Page: 4 of 5 | Answers: 64 | Views: 6,517
slotliebe89
Elite

Malganes wrote on 30.04.2025 at 23:18:

A really interesting documentary about Tipico. I watched it in its entirety^^ Never would have thought that it came about like this.

I'll take a look at it when I get a chance. Thank you.

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R3hab
Elite
You think casinos are unscrupulous then take a look at this report about Amazon
How violent they are
But it's also funny that the authorities have been trying to stop Amazon for 5 years
To prevent but do not get along at all
It's just laughable how we are all ripped off and the state is very relaxed hahahaha

From now on no more Amazon for me, nobody should really support something like that

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JJepsa96
Amateur

R3hab wrote on 15.05.2025 at 14:56: You think casinos are unscrupulous then take a look at this report about Amazon
Wohhha violent how they are on it
But it's also funny that the office has been trying to make Amazon for 5 years
To prevent but do not get along at all
It's just laughable how we are all ripped off and the state is very relaxed hahahaha

From now on no more Amazon for me, nobody should really support something like that


I've also often withdrawn Amazon before. There's another way


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R3hab
Elite

JJepsa96 wrote on May 15, 2025 at 5:21 pm:

Have pulled Amazon many times before too. There is another way



🤣🤣🤣well done👍

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R3hab
Elite
https://youtu.be/lf9log3DBV0

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Zockerbernd
Amateur

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frapi07
Legend

Zockerbernd wrote on 20.05.2025 at 16:10:

Why is a student or, for that matter, a person who earns 1500€ per month not allowed to Deposit more than 10.000€ per month? Just because he currently earns €1000/month? The way they ask where the money comes from... yeah, pure surveillance. Does anyone ask that at the casino? Do they also ask for proof of the origin of my money?

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Butterbrezel
Elite

frapi07 wrote on 20.05.2025 at 16:27:

Why is a student or for that matter a person who earns 1500€ per month not allowed to Deposit more than 10.000€ per month? Just because he currently earns €1000/month? The way they ask where the money comes from... yeah, pure surveillance. Does anyone ask that at the casino? Do they also ask for proof of the origin of my money?


Just imagine person X has a Gambling addiction problem in the initial phase, but no loans and no debts so far. So they have a clean credit rating. This person is therefore condoned to get into Debt, even though there are ways to prevent this.
For some people, even 10 times their income (e.g. gambling EUR 20,000 in 2 months) can be devastating in terms of debt.

Do the math. For example, you earn EUR 2500. You now increase your limit to EUR 10,000 per month, like the test user in the video. And you spend your entire budget in 2 months (this can really happen with gambling).
In just 2 months, you would have accumulated 8 times your income as debt. And that's simply because it's possible and you can't control it as an addict. 8 times is still easy, but the test user in the video could have 20 times his income in debt in 2 months.

And Tipico's explanation that it's a "prepaid" hobby is bullshit.
Increase your limit because you have a clean credit rating. 10.000 EUR available.
Take a loan of 20,000 EUR. You can also get one with a clean credit rating.
You can gamble away the 20,000 EUR and then have a loan that you have to pay off.

Of course, this is all written in the extreme, but there will be such individual cases.

gambling away EUR 1000.00 is a lot of money for many people. But as far as increasing the limit is concerned, I am clearly in favor of more control. Also in casinos. The measures for Player protection should be applied everywhere.

The fact that this is not the case and probably never will be is another matter

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R3hab
Elite

Butterbrezel wrote on 20.05.2025 19:03:


Just imagine, person X has a Gambling addiction problem in the initial phase, but so far no loans and no debts. Thus a clean Schufa. This person is therefore condoned to get into Debt, even though there are ways to prevent this.
For some people, even 10 times their income (e.g. gambling EUR 20,000 in 2 months) can be devastating in terms of debt.

Do the math. For example, you earn EUR 2500. You now increase your limit to EUR 10,000 per month, like the test user in the video. And you spend your entire budget in 2 months (this can really happen with gambling).
In just 2 months, you would have accumulated 8 times your income as debt. And that's simply because it's possible and you can't control it as an addict. 8 times is still easy, but the test user in the video could have 20 times his income in debt in 2 months.

And Tipico's explanation that it's a "prepaid" hobby is bullshit.
Increase your limit because you have a clean credit rating. 10.000 EUR available.
Take a loan of 20,000 EUR. You can also get one with a clean Schufa save.
You can gamble away the 20,000 EUR and then have a loan that you have to pay off.

Of course, this is all written in the extreme, but there will be individual cases like this.

gambling away EUR 1000.00 is a lot of money for many people. But as far as increasing the limit is concerned, I am clearly in favor of more control. Also in casinos. The measures for Player protection should be applied everywhere.

The fact that this is not the case and probably never will be is another matter

I wanted to write that too, thanks for taking it off my hands😁

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frapi07
Legend
Butterbrezel wrote on 20.05.2025 19:03:


Just imagine, person X has a Gambling addiction problem in the initial phase, but so far no loans and no debts. Thus a clean Schufa. This person is therefore condoned to get into Debt, even though there are ways to prevent this.
For some people, even 10 times their income (e.g. gambling EUR 20,000 in 2 months) can be devastating in terms of debt.

Do the math. For example, you earn EUR 2500. You now increase your limit to EUR 10,000 per month, like the test user in the video. And you spend your entire budget in 2 months (this can really happen with gambling).
Then you would have earned 8 times your income as debt in just 2 months. And that's simply because it's possible and you can't control it as an addict. 8 times is still easy, but the test user in the video could have 20 times his income in debt in 2 months.

And Tipico's explanation that it's a "prepaid" hobby is bullshit.
Increase your limit because you have a clean credit rating. 10.000 EUR available.
Take a loan of 20,000 EUR. You can also get one with a clean Schufa save.
You can gamble away the 20,000 EUR and then have a loan that you have to pay off.

Of course, this is all written in the extreme, but there will be individual cases like this.

gambling away EUR 1000.00 is a lot of money for many people. But as far as increasing the limit is concerned, I am clearly in favor of more control. Also in casinos. The measures for Player protection should be applied everywhere.

The fact that this is not the case and probably never will be is another matter

Is it any different for Klarna and all other clubs?

They're also sh*** on it and that can also ruin your future or a few years (Schufa). You can also get a shopping addiction.

Nevertheless, I don't see that Klarna has such a thing and that a student who only earns 1000€ can only debit his account up to 1000€, for example.

Sure, at some point they won't accept any new installments, but the limit is certainly not a month's salary

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R3hab
Elite

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Butterbrezel
Elite
frapi07 wrote on 20.05.2025 at 20:01:
Is it different with Klarna and all other clubs?

There is also sh*** on it and so you can also spoil your future or a few years (Schufa). You can also get a shopping addiction from it.

Nevertheless, I don't see that Klarna has such a thing and that a student who only earns 1000€ can only debit his account up to 1000€, for example.

Sure, at some point they won't accept any new installments, but the limit is certainly not a month's salary

I somehow lost your answer from back then. I saw it now because of R3hab's video (which was unfortunately deleted).

Just because Klarna doesn't have the option and nobody else cares about protecting you financially doesn't mean it's not bad Especially when gambling.
I don't know any statistics as I write this, but I'll be bold and say that Gambling addiction causes more damage than shopping addiction.

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R3hab
Elite
Brooo wtf, was just awesome there were 8 Chinese who made a big move, it was a card game which I don't know and there is somehow such a partial card where you split the cards with in any case one of them took this divider with one hand, pushed the cards a bit forward and took them with his cell phone and made 140k win on the next visit the police was there😂😂

But the trick was really awesome the guy had sklis if they hadn't been so greedy they would have gotten away with it ^^
Too bad the documentary is gone

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Max_Bet
Expert
Today's guest is Dr. Tobias Hayer. He is one of the leading gambling researchers in Germany. He deals with all the mechanisms of gambling and has built up an enormous amount of knowledge about one of the most dangerous addictions of our time.
We talk about the most dangerous Games of chance, why Slot machines are so addictive, how providers manipulate you and why professional athletes are particularly susceptible. We also talk about the role of the state, which makes billions every year from this disease, and what you can do if you are affected.
For me, this is one of the most important topics that is talked about far too little.
Thank you, Tobias, for being there.bj
Enjoy the episode!


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frapi07
Legend

Butterbrezel wrote on 28.05.2025 at 18:30:
Your reply from back then somehow got lost on me. I saw it now because of R3hab's video (which was unfortunately deleted).

Just because Klarna doesn't have the option and nobody else cares about protecting you financially doesn't mean it's not bad Especially when gambling.
I don't know the statistics as I write this, but I'll be bold and say that Gambling addiction causes more damage than shopping addiction.

All good ^^

Gambling can take you completely off your feet and you can lose your possessions, no question.

With Klarna, however, this should not be underestimated. You don't have this Risk there, but many people who use it live beyond their limit. The result? Debts in the 5-digit range.



Take a look at the video. Affording things for €22,000 that you can't really afford is quite something. The bills were apparently so high that the salary was barely enough. The result of a society in which consumption is equated with prosperity. The main thing is to present my latest "haul" on social media - it makes you feel validated and that you've arrived in life.

Personally, I think it's worse that you can order so much on credit instead of gambling your money away. The reason: you have to pay off loans (especially loans of this size) for an extremely long time. I know what it's like with student loans. I preferred to pay it off in one go (it was €2000). Otherwise it would have been 130€ per month and something that would have haunted me for almost 2 years. I already had that with something else and even €100-150 is noticeable. But €130 is nothing. I know someone who has €3000 in Klarna Debt and they're already asking for a large installment payment. But the biggest problem is Schufa. Even if you have paid everything, the entries remain for another 3 years. So for 3 years you can see how long it took you to pay off and whether there were any defaults. What will she earn? 2400€ (main job and possibly a side job as an "influencer"). Let's say €300 a month - so it will take years to pay off this €20,000 + interest and even longer for it to be cleared by Schufa.


If you've completely gambled away your savings, then that's it. Assuming, of course, that you wake up after the loud fall and are no longer stuck in this spiral.

Nobody at Klarna and co. cares - why should they? At 20, you should be old enough to know what you're doing. The same goes for gambling. I've also plundered my account umpteen times, but the amounts were always small and medium. I also drew the line at larger bets. i gambled away €3000 once and then took a break for 14 months. The break wasn't because I didn't have any more money, but because I just wanted to slow down a bit.

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