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Other topics related to... : Ban on online casinos: What is your opinion? (Page 2)

Topic created on 17th Jun. 2018 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 14 | Views: 5,351
s****e
And around 24 million throughout Europe.
That's quite a number.
If you calculate what this means in terms of private insolvencies, overindebtedness, and in some cases
criminal acts to finance the searches,
Family break ups, probably suicides etc
Suicides, etc., it's a big problem.

On the other hand, about 23 million people in the EU are addicted to alcohol.

If you think about how long gambling has existed in this form, and how long alcohol has existed, this has
quickly replaced alcohol as the number 1 addiction



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S****8
i don't care if they all close down or are banned ...

I've been clean for two weeks and I just don't miss it anymore!

From there ...

Have a nice day

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Daniel
Elite
stkrie wrote on 18.06.2018 at 13:09: And about 24 million throughout Europe.
That is already ne house number.
If one calculates, what thereby private insolvencies, overindebtedness, with the one or other also
criminal acts to finance the searches,
Family break ups, probably suicides etc
Suicides, etc., it's a big problem.

On the other hand, about 23 million people in the EU are addicted to alcohol.

If you think about how long gambling has existed in this form, and how long alcohol has existed, this has
quickly replaced alcohol as the number 1 addiction.

It's a big problem and smoking Pot is certainly less addictive than gambling (if not mixed with tobacco). We should have put a stop to it much earlier. In the past (until say 2010), prohibitions or severe restrictions might have been a good way to get a grip on this problem. But the Slot machines have now been allowed to exist in every rancid pub and the gambling houses have sprung up like mushrooms. Thus it arrived in the center of the society and thereby not only many players, but also many pathological players were made.

After all, not every gambler is addicted. It's a minority, though I don't believe the official numbers (under 5% of gamblers). I think that about 25% of all gamblers are addicted to gambling. But this is just a perceived estimate, of course I can be wrong and you are welcome to teach me better.

Where did you get these numbers from? Are 24 million people in Europe addicted to gambling or simply gamblers and among these 24 million are - let's say - 8 million gambling addicts? I think that would be more realistic. If 24 million people were really addicted, then a ban would be even more difficult to enforce, since at least 100 million people in Europe would then gamble regularly. If these 100 million gamblers were banned from gambling, then in the best case scenario perhaps 30 million would stop completely and the 70 million would then play directly with the mafia. The whole turnover would suddenly flow there and that would be insofar violent, because the mafia could also expand other "business branches" with this money. Business branches where really people involuntarily come to harm. Human traff**king, forced prostitution, etc. AND you could still play and then completely without youth or player protection.

With 24 million addicts and min. 100 million players, a ban in democratic, civilized countries would no longer be enforceable. Then you would have to try to deter with at least high prison sentences (or even death penalty?) for providers and players.

A lot has to happen, but in my opinion banning is no longer a possible way that would be successful in practice. One must simply ensure or to a high percentage ensure that blocked players can no longer play anywhere and this is currently not possible in Online Casinos, because there is no central blocking file and because the Verification is only done at the time of payout. There are many things that urgently need to be improved here.

Unfortunately, the legislators are currently more concerned with money laundering prevention than with youth and player protection. In the offline sector in Germany, however, youth and Player protection is even worse than would be the case online (not in gaming arcades but in pubs and the like). Money laundering is also a bigger problem in the offline area in my opinion - simply because offline cash is used, which is more difficult to trace. Also, the requirements to open a gambling house are relatively low and there are often strange characters who run gambling houses.

This Spieltotheken concept must first be put a stop to. From play loos become correct Casinos with connection to a central blocking file and higher editions a play loo betreiebn to be allowed. Many will not be able to fulfill these requirements, but then they will have had bad luck and the pubs that cannot survive without slot machines will also have had bad luck. Where the planes are planed, there fall chips and if the end result is satisfactory, then the fallen chips pay off in the end but for the absolute majority of the population.

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S****n
Nothing will change any more. The train has sailed. Politicians are now hastily trying to put toothpaste back in the tube with senseless bans and laws. It is not the causes that are being fought, but only the effect.

Therapy places ? You either wait a few months or you don't get one at all. If one was so far blameless.
But if you commit a crime...., uhhh suddenly a thousand people care about you and your situation. Why not before?

Why are there more and more alcoholics and drug addicts ? Does someone who has a good life take drugs or drink 3 bottles of grain a day ? Hardly.

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Hightower
Top Member
With the gambling it is the same as with drugs, alcohol or cigarettes, who wants to get it also, whether legal or illegal! And I doubt that the FRG can escape this cake batz! But let's wait and see

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