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Online Casinos in general: There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot anymore today

Topic created on 21st Apr. 2025 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 43 | Views: 2,943
Andy2204
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There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

21st Apr. 2025, at 01:32 pm CEST#1
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I just have to get this off my chest. Not because I want sympathy - but because I am convinced that many people out there feel exactly the same as I do.

I've been playing online casino for over 10 years. I've spent months testing every platform, taking the Welcome bonus everywhere. And in the past? You could still win back then. I was almost always able to pay out over 1,000 euros, sometimes even 5,000 or more - and regularly.
And the best thing about it? No problems with withdrawals, no blocking, no stress. It worked. It was fair. And yes - it felt good somewhere too.

And today?
You deposit. Again. And again. And what happens? Nothing at all.
Yes, every now and then there's a win that gives you hope - but that's it. It used to be different. Much more intense. Much more real.

What strikes me is that the slots simply run disastrously.
Sometimes you really get the feeling that the casino flips a switch somewhere and says: "So, nothing's working today."
And then - all of a sudden, on other days - everything escalates completely. Free spins in every slot, wins, hits, as if someone had switched on the lucky machine.
But days like that are now the absolute exception.

I remember times when that was completely normal:
Moon Princess with a 5 euro bet - 1000x.
Wild Heist, five times the keys on a 5 bet.
Reactoonz - I had 15 pink symbols several times.
These were not dreams. That was reality. And it was addictive, of course - but at least it was still possible to win something.

Today it just feels empty.
You play, hope and lose. Again and again.
And I play just like I used to - sometimes low, sometimes high - but almost nothing happens anymore.

And yes - I'm being honest:
I didn't get two really big wins (11,000 euros and 6,000 euros) because I bought free spins in the bonus.
That was my fault. I didn't think about it at the time. I just did it.
Stupidity, greed, no idea - but that was down to me. But it still hurts.

I just wanted to let my thoughts run free.
Because I believe that there are many out there who think exactly the same thing:
Gambling isn't what it used to be.

You used to have a sense of anticipation when you logged in.
Today you just have a bad feeling in your stomach.
And when you do hit something, you immediately think:
"Do they even pay that out?"

Online Casino 2024 feels like a shadow of the past.
An empty promise. A game without a soul.

And that's a damn shame.

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Emeyesty
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There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

21st Apr. 2025, at 03:37 pm CEST#2
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In terms of feeling, the free spins hardly give you anything. You're rushing around and are happy when you finally see all the bonus symbols appear, then there's a brief adrenaline rush and then you realize immediately after a few spins that there's not much in it and in most cases you're disappointed because you get spit out around €10

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JJepsa96
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There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

21st Apr. 2025, at 05:42 pm CEST#3
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Andy2204 wrote on 21.04.2025 at 13:32: I just have to get this off my chest. Not because I want sympathy - but because I'm convinced that many out there feel exactly the same as I do.

I've been playing online casino for over 10 years. I've really tested every platform for months on end, taking the Welcome bonus everywhere. And in the past? You could still win back then. I was almost always able to cash out over 1,000 euros, sometimes even 5,000 or more - and regularly.
And the best thing about it? No problems with withdrawals, no blocking, no stress. It worked. It was fair. And yes - it felt good somewhere too.

And today?
You deposit. Again. And again. And what happens? Nothing at all.
Yes, every now and then there's a win that gives you hope - but that's it. It used to be different. Much more intense. Much more real.

What strikes me is that the slots simply run disastrously.
Sometimes you really have the feeling that the casino flips a switch somewhere and says: "So, nothing's working today."
And then - all of a sudden, on other days - everything escalates completely. Free spins in every slot, wins, hits, as if someone had switched on the lucky machine.
But days like that are now the absolute exception.

I remember times when that was completely normal:
Moon Princess with a 5 euro bet - 1000x.
Wild Heist, five times the keys on a 5 bet.
Reactoonz - I had 15 pink symbols several times.
These were not dreams. That was reality. And it was addictive, of course - but at least it was still possible to win something.

Today it just feels empty.
You play, hope and lose. Again and again.
And I play just like I used to - sometimes low, sometimes high - but almost nothing happens anymore.

And yes - I'm being honest:
I didn't get two really big wins (11,000 euros and 6,000 euros) because I bought free spins in the bonus.
That was my fault. I didn't think about it at the time. I just did it.
Stupidity, greed, no idea - but that was down to me. But it still hurts.

I just wanted to let my thoughts run free.
Because I believe that there are many out there who think exactly the same thing:
Gambling isn't what it used to be.

You used to have a sense of anticipation when you logged in.
Today you just have a bad feeling in your stomach.
And when you do hit something, you immediately think:
"Do they even pay that out?"

Online Casino 2024 feels like a shadow of the past.
An empty promise. A game without a soul.

And that's a damn shame.

New Interstate Gambling Treaty 2021(?!) .... A lot has changed since then at the latest, to the disadvantage of gamblers..

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btssultan
Experienced

There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 12:35 am CEST#4
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So with illegal providers I'm really lucky from time to time and also have fun and usually more + than deposited. With all the German stalls, sorry, but there I'm only in the red every month, no matter which Provider, you can really Deposit €1000 there and not even get 20% back in value and that for months.

That's one reason why I've distanced myself from them and only play more illegally.

But your feeling as you say it is unfortunately a fact, all the big game providers have turned the payout screw enormously, you can see this very clearly at Pragmatic, which can even be read in every forum in the gambling area, with the same experience.

Unfortunately, Pragmatic pays a lot to all its partner casinos, which receive commissions from Pragmatic accordingly. This is one reason why you always see active advertising from all providers for Pragmatic and its untrustworthy promotions.

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Bitcoin
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There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 12:44 pm CEST#5
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That's exactly how it is. Above all pragmatic play, I am sure that they are manipulating something. That's why they are no longer played.

Funnily enough, a year ago you were ridiculed if you criticized/attacked pragmatic play and their affiliates... but now many people have probably noticed that pragmatic play doesn't play clean.

i share exactly your opinion. for about 3-4 years there has been absolutely nothing going on.

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RebellYell
Top Member

There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 02:04 pm CEST#6
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Bitcoin wrote on 22.04.2025 at 12:44: That's exactly how it is. Above all pragmatic play I am sure they are manipulating something. That's why they are no longer played.

Funnily enough, a year ago you were ridiculed if you criticized/attacked pragmatic play and their affiliates... but now many have probably noticed that pragmatic play doesn't play clean.

i share your opinion exactly. for about 3-4 years there has been absolutely nothing going on.

Why Manipulation? Just take a look at the RTPs of Pragmatic games in the German shops and you'll see why things are so shitty for the players. They don't need to "manipulate" anything extra.

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gagapapamama
Elite

There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 02:55 pm CEST#7
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RebellYell wrote on April 22nd, 2025 at 2:04 pm:

Why Manipulation? Just look at the RTPs in the German stalls of the Pragmatic games and you'll know why it's so shitty for the players. They don't need to "manipulate" anything extra.

There's a lot of money involved, there's lying and cheating, believe me, greed knows no bounds.

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Carmystica
Visitor

There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 05:06 pm CEST#8
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Hi

i would also say that this is all manipulated and that the switch definitely exists.
It's always the same pattern. As a new customer you win once and then it only goes downhill.
As a new customer, I once went through all the Pushgaming games one after the other and got a golden coin for every game.
Even if you restart the games again and again, you always get a few cents in wins at the beginning and then slowly down to the dead spins. This is particularly noticeable with Playngo.
You think you're lucky when you win but actually it's just that you were lucky that the casino let you win.
If you win, the casino has only invested in you to hook you and then suck you dry.
It's a pure mind game what they do to you, nothing more.

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XXLEONIDASXX
Top Member

There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 06:21 pm CEST#9
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I agree! In addition to the house edge, they're also getting really screwed! They are simply getting greedier and greedier...not only the German Online Casinos are bad...others have also become bad! At stake I was heavily lured in the beginning, had good hits and a max win and now for months not even over my depositor!!! And I Deposit almost daily...but meanwhile I hardly feel like it anymore because nothing ever comes anyway.

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Butterbrezel
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There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 06:24 pm CEST#10
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Carmystica wrote on 22.04.2025 at 17:06: Hi

You think you're lucky when you win but actually it's just that you were lucky that the casino let you win.
If you win, the casino has only invested in you to have you on the hook and then suck you dry.
It's a pure mind game what they do with you, nothing more.

I think that was the best 1st post ever here. Nice

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garfield68
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There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 06:41 pm CEST#11
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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 22.04.2025 at 18:21: I see it similarly! In addition to the house advantage, there is also a lot of cheating! They are simply getting greedy...not only the German Online Casinos are bad...others have also become bad! At stake I was heavily lured in the beginning, had good hits and a max win and now for months not even over my depositor!!! And I Deposit almost daily...but now I hardly feel like it anymore because nothing ever comes anyway.

at the moment nothing is working for me at stake.

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1LTC1
Expert

There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 07:43 pm CEST#12
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Why do you still play if you think it's being manipulated 😅
Sure, there are always black sheep here and there, but big established stalls don't need that. The house advantage takes care of that all by itself. Greed or not, there's nothing to be gained from deliberate Manipulation if there's a Risk that it could be over overnight if it's discovered. The larger providers are more interested in making money in the long term.

Yes, things used to be better. RTPs are being screwed down everywhere. But you also have to consider that running a casino is becoming more and more expensive, personal energy rents are rising. There are now 10 times as many Online Casinos as there were 10 years ago, probably even more. Even if there are now more people playing online than 10 years ago, people now have less money available for such things. And these are all factors that can only be recouped through the payout ratio, which means that players are often left holding the bag. And there are certainly even more factors.
I certainly don't want to defend any casinos here, but think the other way round....
And of course, you read again and again that the processes are the same, you win first and then you lose. But who shouts the loudest? Those who lose more often than they win. Those who experience the same processes again and again. GJ is already a large community and then there are the other large and bigger communities, all full of relatively similar topics/processes. And what percentage of all gamers worldwide are users of all platforms? Maybe just 10%. So you don't even know how the rest who aren't active on such platforms are doing.

Always these conspiracy theories like there's a button or you're lured in and then ripped off or win accounts lose accounts....
There certainly have been, are and will be such things. But the chance of getting one of these is rather small if you don't try out 5 new casinos every day. But then these are places that want to make a quick buck and are only on the market for a few months and then close down.
It's better to concentrate on 1 or 2 casinos, 3 at the most, where you have good experience and an established name behind them, and you'll notice that things are going much better than if you're touring 20 casinos every month.
Maybe then you'll get away from all the theories.

So, my word for Sunday on Tuesday. On that note, good luck or don't bother..

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Donnie
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22nd Apr. 2025, at 07:57 pm CEST#13
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You should concentrate on 3 casinos? Maybe that's why they are playing elsewhere, because they are only being ripped off in their regular casinos. There's more to it than just operating costs that have increased. In any case, there are expenses for war, the mafia and the like behind it. They simply can't keep their necks full. Together with the gaming providers, you're gutted at the push of a button, one hundred per

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1LTC1
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There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 08:00 pm CEST#14
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Donnie wrote on 22.04.2025 at 19:57: You should concentrate on 3 casinos? Maybe that's why they're playing elsewhere because they're just being ripped off at their regular casinos. There's more to it than just operating costs that have increased. In any case, there are expenses for war, mafia and the like behind it. They simply can't keep their necks full. Together with the game providers, you're gutted at the push of a button, one hundred percent

So why are you still playing?

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frapi07
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There used to be more tinsel - or why online casinos simply don't shoot...

22nd Apr. 2025, at 08:12 pm CEST#15
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I don't have much to say about slots, but I've generally turned my back on slots because I think Table games give me better chances. I've experienced enough: how I've won or lost several times, but I think you have a better chance of winning at Blackjack, for example.

With Pragmatic, I very often - if not almost always - had to buy several Bonuses to get a good bonus. Personally, I no longer wanted to do that. It's just no fun if I Risk €100, for example, and only get a good bonus in what feels like 1:10, while the others are 50-60x (very rarely 100x). With the BJ, even with a bad hand you can still get something out of it with luck. Bonuses are unfortunately scripted.

The worst thing was when, for example, Gates only ever gave <10x several times in a row. Very often I had 3 bonuses in a row that paid almost nothing. Since I make 100-200€ bonus buys anyway, I can try it right away with a bigger hand of BJ.

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