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Online Casinos in general: Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB) (Page 110)

Topic created on 23rd Jan. 2021 | Page: 110 of 111 | Answers: 1,100 | Views: 281,086
Druff
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

2nd Jun. 2025, at 01:53 am CEST#1095
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Olli_Eule wrote on 02.06.2025 00:45:


The police would probably only stand in front of the door if the driver flees and then listen to you. Drivers fleeing is punished so severely in Germany. Even if it's just a small scratch that is minimally visible. Just a light touch on the other car, so to speak.
Then there will be 2 officers at your front door.

In contrast, illegal gambling has not yet matured for penalties and no police officer will come by for something like that.
I think the police also have guidelines. Comparable to the tax office! I don't think an official or someone from the customs investigation or tax investigation will come to the house for minor tax fraud. They only do that for big fish, if at all.

Well, I was just answering the question, I didn't come up with this fear 😂

And stop with this TV myth as if they just stand in front of the door with 2 men because of a small scratch caused by a parking bump without personal injury, think about what that would ultimately mean, they could only visit parking lot "rambos" at home around the clock, apart from the fact that you don't have to wait all night until the injured party visits his car again, for example

But even if they were at the door, you are not obliged to open the door, you are not obliged to talk to them, you are not obliged to tell them where you were or where you want to go, you are not obliged to show them your car, let alone let them into the garage, of course they are nice and friendly, they want you to take care of yourself belastest☝️

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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

2nd Jun. 2025, at 03:15 am CEST#1096
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Druff wrote on 02.06.2025 at 01:53:
Well, I only answered the question, I didn't come up with this fear 😂

And stop with this TV myth as if they just stand in front of the door with 2 men because of a small scratch caused by a parking bump without personal injury, think about what that would ultimately mean, they could only visit parking lot "rambos" at home around the clock, apart from the fact that you don't have to wait all night until the injured party visits his car again, for example

But even if they were at the door, you are not obliged to open the door, you are not obliged to talk to them, you are not obliged to tell them where you were or where you want to go, you are not obliged to show them your car, let alone let them into the garage, of course they are quite nice and friendly, they want you to be yourself belastest☝️

Actually, this is not a myth - I've had to deal with hit-and-runs about four times in the last 2-3 years, and in every case but one, two officers showed up at my door and told me that they had already shown up at the address of the person who caused the accident.

Only in one case was the perpetrator summoned to the station, as the name and address were already known and there was also footage of the accident.

There is a very simple reason for this:

The accident is recorded for you as the injured party, and the vehicle of the person who caused the accident is usually also inspected.
A hit-and-run is by no means a trivial offense - which is why the following applies:

If something like this happens to you, if in doubt, it's better to contact the police briefly and leave a note if you don't have time to wait for the injured party.

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Druff
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

2nd Jun. 2025, at 04:26 am CEST#1097
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gamble1 wrote on 02/06/2025 03:15:
Actually, that's not a myth - I've had to deal with hit-and-runs about four times in the last 2-3 years, and in every case but one, two officers showed up at my door and told me that they had already shown up at the address of the person at fault.

Only in one case was the perpetrator summoned to the station, as the name and address were already known and there was also footage of the accident.

There is a very simple reason for this:

The accident is recorded for you as the injured party, and the vehicle of the person who caused the accident is usually also inspected.
A hit-and-run is by no means a trivial offense - which is why the following applies:

If something like this happens to you, it's better to contact the police and leave a note if you don't have time to wait for the injured party.

So I assumed that you would leave a message or report it to the police 😅☝️

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Druff
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

2nd Jun. 2025, at 05:18 am CEST#1098
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gamble1 wrote on 02/06/2025 03:15:
Actually, that's not a myth - I've had to deal with hit-and-runs about four times in the last 2-3 years, and in every case but one, two officers showed up at my door and told me that they had already shown up at the address of the person at fault.

Only in one case was the person who caused the accident called to the police station, as their name and address were already known and there was also footage of the accident.

In this case, you would be the injured party, but in Olli's example, you are the person who caused the accident, and if there are no recordings and you have not left a message, certain makes and models are said to be registered relatively frequently and depending on where you live, they would then have to visit everyone who has registered this model in person, so theoretically ... Have fun with it 😊

But still: So the police told you that they had already been to the person who caused the accident? Then the person who caused the accident left a message (which of course you should do), or contacted the police himself (since you only say in one case that the name and address were already known and there were recordings of it), if I have understood this correctly and it happened like this, that would be a PERMITTED distance from the scene of the accident, provided you have observed the following: a) waited at least 30 minutes at the scene of the accident and b) informed the police about the accident (not only in case of doubt, but always) c) left a notice on the damaged vehicle.

But the main point was that if the 👮 are at your door, you are not obliged to open it to talk to them, or even to let them into your most personal living space (apartment/garage), and you are also not obliged to show them where your car is, that was the actual statement behind it.

Once again for safety's sake and for clarification: Of course I do not advise anyone to leave the scene of an accident without permission and without notification, there is no Grund☝️

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gamble1
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

2nd Jun. 2025, at 05:38 am CEST#1099
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Druff wrote on 02.06.2025 at 05:18:
But here you would be the injured party, but in the example of Olli you are the polluter, and if there are no recordings of it and you have not left a message, certain brands and models should be registered relatively often and depending on where you live, they would then have to speak personally to everyone who has registered this model, so theoretically ... Have fun with it 😊

But still: So the police told you that they had already been to the person who caused the accident? Then the person who caused the accident left a message (which of course you should do), or contacted the police himself (since you only say in one case that the name and address were already known and there were recordings of it), if I have understood this correctly and it happened like this, that would be a PERMITTED distance from the scene of the accident, provided you have observed the following: a) waited at least 30 minutes at the scene of the accident and b) informed the police about the accident (not only in case of doubt, but always) c) left a notice on the damaged vehicle.

But the main point was that if the 👮 are at your door, you are not obliged to open it to talk to them, or even to let them into your most personal living space (apartment/garage), and you are also not obliged to show them where your car is, that was the actual statement behind it.

Once again for safety's sake and for clarification: Of course I don't advise anyone to leave the scene of an accident without permission and without notifying me, there's no need to do so Grund☝️

Sorry, I should have added that:

The license plates were always known by witnesses who were kind enough to ring my doorbell - unfortunately it was always right in front of the house.

Edit: I took it as if you meant that they wouldn't even leave the station for such an offense.

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Druff
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

2nd Jun. 2025, at 05:56 am CEST#1100
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gamble1 wrote on 02.06.2025 at 05:38:
Sorry, I should have added that:

The license plates were always known by witnesses who were kind enough to ring my doorbell - was always right outside the house, unfortunately.

Edit: I took it as if you meant they wouldn't even leave the station for such an offense.

Yes, that would have been very important information haha 😅 Really right in front of the house? And then brazenly run off? 😁 Well, I don't know what kind of neighborhood it is, but that's generally unnecessary and you just don't do it 😅😁

For God's sake, no, not really 😁😅 But strictly speaking, with this kind of story you can't assume that it's a criminal offense ☝️😁

Just wanted to reassure the questioner that no police will be at the door to talk to him, and if they do (which won't happen anyway) that he should just keep the door shut and his mouth shut anyway ☝️😅 After all, they are not your friends ☝️

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Olli_Eule
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

2nd Jun. 2025, at 07:22 am CEST#1101
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Druff wrote on 02.06.2025 at 05:56 am:
Yes, that would have been very important information haha 😅 really right in front of the house ? And then brazenly run away? 😁 Well, I don't know what kind of neighborhood it is, but that's generally unnecessary and you just don't do it 😅😁

For God's sake, no, not really 😁😅 But strictly speaking, you can't generally assume that this kind of story is a criminal offense ☝️😁

Just wanted to reassure the questioner that no police will be at the door to talk to him, and if they do (which won't happen anyway) that he should just keep the door shut and his mouth shut anyway ☝️😅 After all, they are not your friends ☝️

I just know someone to whom this happened.

It was the slightest touch without harm and the police are at your door.

But if it's a small amount of illegal gambling or tax fraud, no official will come. The exception would be catching someone doing illegal work.

But let's say someone has collected too much interest without paying tax on it. If it's within reason and not millions, the tax investigators won't come to the house.

And it will be the same with gambling.

The state is still generous with such minor offenses. But as I said, it also depends on the amount involved

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Camugax
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

2nd Jun. 2025, at 10:58 am CEST#1102
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Anonymous wrote on 01.06.2025 at 23:20:

Hi

May I ask what period you are talking about and were you terminated by your bank before that?

Hi

I was not terminated by the bank for transactions in 2023.

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Druff
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

2nd Jun. 2025, at 11:00 am CEST#1103
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If there was no damage and your friend simply drove away, which is completely unnecessary, and he certainly didn't wait until someone took down his license plate number, there must have been camera surveillance, otherwise they wouldn't have found out.

And if there really was no damage, and he knows that, he probably even looked, apart from the fact that something like that looks suspicious, the removal from the scene of the accident was unnecessary.

And yes, they were standing in front of the door, but he didn't have to open it and he didn't have to say where his car was.

Especially with things like this, I generally take this to heart, you should get into the habit of not talking to the police, nothing good comes out of it, but maybe I just see it that way and it's my "socialization", but I'm really doing relatively well with it 😅

"But let's say someone has collected too much interest without paying tax on it. If it's within reason and not millions, the tax investigation won't come to the house."

Yes and no, you can't say that across the board, neither the Bolilei nor the public prosecutor's office decides that, but a judge has to sign the search warrant.

"And it will be similar with gambling.

The state is still generous with such minor offenses. But as I said, it also depends on the amount"

As a rule, there will never be a search of a home due to participation in illegal gambling, unless there is an investigation into something else, as this would not be proportionate.

The judiciary is largely a matter for the federal states, thank goodness for the separation of powers, which (still) keeps the excesses within limits

The state has no interest in prosecuting a player for gambling, which is why the proceedings are currently still being discontinued, but the state does have an interest in collecting the money earned from the "illegal" activity.

The members of Gamblejoe who are being investigated for this are also not afraid of prosecution (because they are probably all aware that they will not receive a (criminal) penalty, as intent is difficult to prove), the main concern is probably more about the confiscation of the money received "unjustly (which legally comes from illegal activities)". But that's just a guess 🤷

To be honest, I'm looking forward to the fall and what will happen after the summer break and whether the (liberal) course will change in this regard.

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Heidi54
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)

2nd Jun. 2025, at 02:41 pm CEST#1104
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Camugax wrote on 02.06.2025 at 10:58 am:

Moin!

These are transactions in 2023. I was not terminated by the bank.

Which bank was that? @Hulk it is probably also possible without termination

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