you always read that the win/loss is determined as soon as the reels start spinning.
I wonder how it is with bonus rounds that seem to be variable with a second intervention,
e.g. Piggy Riches, Eastern Emerald, DoA2 (where you can choose number of rounds with different multipliers)
or Piggy Megaways, Wild Machine (where you spin the wheel of fortune?
Is the win, possibly with a difference of a few cents, already fixed when you receive the bonus round, or have you only passed one of two barriers and you have to be lucky a second time to choose the right games or start the wheel at the right ultrasecond?
Doesn't matter, it should have been fixed before because you don't start any other game during this time and therefore still have the same "game number" as before
I think there are with the wheels zb. different rounds so in about:
Bonus wheel = FS = x5 Multi = 399 € win
Bonus wheel = FS = x4 multi = 0 € win
Bonus wheel = x8 = 8 € win
So it doesn't matter when you click as well as before the start you know if you will get FS and how many extensions you will get
You must always think if you have e.g. the game number 12345678 it remains until a new spin at 12345678 and is not at once to 123445646 can be well observed in some Red Tiger games in some casinos there you have the game number e.g. 12345678 and the Remains always the same no matter what you select e.g. in the bonus rounds
Very interesting topic. I'm actually also of the opinion that despite the possibility of choice in the bonus rounds of some slots, the win is already determined beforehand and the interaction is only supposed to give the player a feeling of control.
However, I wonder whether Dead or Alive II with the Train Heist feature can also achieve win factors above 10,000 or whether there is actually another branching within the already completed spin.
I can live very well with the knowledge, because this "feeling" of control that you are supposed to get through this, can very often turn into a feeling of wrong choice and annoyance with yourself
@ShakhtarD:
According to this, with a fixed bomb win, I guess in Train Heist you would get the first complete wildline already during the first 1-3 spins, in the Multiplier game it would be complete only during the last 3 spins.
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DerLorax wrote on 08/24/2020 at 08:44: Thanks for your replies.
I can live very well with the knowledge, because this "feeling" of control that it is supposed to give you can very often turn into a feeling of wrong choice and annoyance with yourself
That's exactly what this element is in it for. You're supposed to be mad at yourself, not the operator. He was fair enough to only give you three pots that looked the same. Why do you always choose the one with the lowest value? It's your own fault!
With the pick and click bonu I am also sure that the win is fixed.
With a game like piggy megaways, too, because it doesn't really matter whether you let the player spin the wheel or tell him directly that you have xxx spins with xxx Multiplier
In games where you can choose the FS and also the Variance is different, I'm not sure about that. For example DoA 2:
On the rightmost or lowest feature (with the highest variance) you often win under 5-10x bet. This never happens with the first or top freespins... Therefore there must be some influence on the choice I think....
Nevertheless, it remains the same game with the same number. Only that the spin press not a win is fixed, but 3 possible wins
have tried to break it down here before
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/welche-art-von-los--139208/#p139343
a distinction is made between 3 types of fs
the normal fs --> win is already fixed at the start
the features where you can choose e.g. 6 boxes until payout / collect or similar is there --> win is already fixed. e.g. the tower feature in lucky halloween
the fs features like in rise of olympus / moon princess / doa2 --> each of the 3 parts has its own but before choosing at the beginning also already fixed result
for those who are interested. daniel described it very well here
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/wird-man-als-neuer-spieler-bevorzugt-34582/3/#p34668
for many you can also prove it like the tower feature in lucky halloween because the balance immediately contains the win. by the way it is the same in the red hot fire Pot and golden night games before all the numbers and question marks are revealed.
the games like rise of olympus etc. there is probably no proof.
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you always read that the win/loss is determined as soon as the reels start spinning.
I wonder how it is with bonus rounds that seem to be variable with a second intervention,
e.g. Piggy Riches, Eastern Emerald, DoA2 (where you can choose number of rounds with different multipliers)
or Piggy Megaways, Wild Machine (where you spin the wheel of fortune?
Is the win, possibly with a difference of a few cents, already fixed when you receive the bonus round, or have you only passed one of two barriers and you have to be lucky a second time to choose the right games or start the wheel at the right ultrasecond?
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I think there are with the wheels zb. different rounds so in about:
Bonus wheel = FS = x5 Multi = 399 € win
Bonus wheel = FS = x4 multi = 0 € win
Bonus wheel = x8 = 8 € win
So it doesn't matter when you click as well as before the start you know if you will get FS and how many extensions you will get
You must always think if you have e.g. the game number 12345678 it remains until a new spin at 12345678 and is not at once to 123445646 can be well observed in some Red Tiger games in some casinos there you have the game number e.g. 12345678 and the Remains always the same no matter what you select e.g. in the bonus rounds
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However, I wonder whether Dead or Alive II with the Train Heist feature can also achieve win factors above 10,000 or whether there is actually another branching within the already completed spin.
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I can live very well with the knowledge, because this "feeling" of control that you are supposed to get through this, can very often turn into a feeling of wrong choice and annoyance with yourself
@ShakhtarD:
According to this, with a fixed bomb win, I guess in Train Heist you would get the first complete wildline already during the first 1-3 spins, in the Multiplier game it would be complete only during the last 3 spins.
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That's exactly what this element is in it for. You're supposed to be mad at yourself, not the operator. He was fair enough to only give you three pots that looked the same. Why do you always choose the one with the lowest value? It's your own fault!
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There are games where you can decide with selection how much max you win
Example Immortal romance if you take 2 bonus it has much less potential than the last one
Or Piggy riches how will you make 2000x with small multi ?
There are games where you decide with the selection whether small win or chance of huge win
If it is clear and you want to win 2500x but you choose the lowest value how will you get 2500x ?
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I doubt very much that the other free spins could have given me that much.
Is yes to see with doa the same comes out is maybe at lower wins so, but not at maximum win.
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With a game like piggy megaways, too, because it doesn't really matter whether you let the player spin the wheel or tell him directly that you have xxx spins with xxx Multiplier
In games where you can choose the FS and also the Variance is different, I'm not sure about that. For example DoA 2:
On the rightmost or lowest feature (with the highest variance) you often win under 5-10x bet. This never happens with the first or top freespins... Therefore there must be some influence on the choice I think....
Nevertheless, it remains the same game with the same number. Only that the spin press not a win is fixed, but 3 possible wins
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https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/welche-art-von-los--139208/#p139343
a distinction is made between 3 types of fs
for those who are interested. daniel described it very well here
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/wird-man-als-neuer-spieler-bevorzugt-34582/3/#p34668
for many you can also prove it like the tower feature in lucky halloween because the balance immediately contains the win. by the way it is the same in the red hot fire Pot and golden night games before all the numbers and question marks are revealed.
the games like rise of olympus etc. there is probably no proof.
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