In my opinion, you should get out of the habit. The same monotonous processes in all these casinos.
It seems very controlled to me and you don't stand a chance.
It is particularly noticeable:
Hours-long feeding phases without free spins
There are also hardly any medium and higher winning pictures.
Free spins only very rarely bring anything. As a rule, the results can be described as grotesquely bad.
Let's take 10 book games as an example:
20 cent games for around 3 to 5 euros
40 cent games around 8 to 12 euros
50 cent games around 12 to 18 euros
1 Euro games around 20 to 40 Euro
In short.........lächerlich....
Of course there are exceptions both upwards but rather downwards (very often zero rounds)
If you have bonus games, the games then suddenly drop and often so much that you have no chance of making the sales anyway. Not bad either and this happens remarkably often.
But it doesn't matter what you play in these booths. The result is always bad 95 percent of the time.
This may be due to regulation in this country, but it is also very likely due to certain "attitudes that don't exist"
These are probably agreed between the game providers or manufacturers and the respective casinos.
In my opinion, chance plays almost no role at all here.
In my circle of friends, almost everyone who gambles regularly now believes this.
But what to do?
Turn your back on German or GGL casinos and play in crypto casinos?
Is it better to play in non-GGL casinos?
Or stop completely?
I'll give it a try in the short term. I just need to get to grips with the crypto topic more intensively beforehand or I'm already doing so.
I've tested so many of the German casinos now and they are by far the worst:
Admiral bet
StarGames
Leo Vegas
Tipico
Bwin
Betano
In my opinion, you can really feel that things are more than strange with them.
LeoVegas is the worst. They feed you and then there are only blows. Very, very bad.
Do you have similar experiences?
How are the crypto gamblers doing?
I just feel like I'm being taken for a ride at GGL..
I hardly ever play in DE shops, but I can say that I'm easily €500-600 in the black.
Wunderino 10€ deposited 90€ paid out.
Sun games through the real money play n go free spins 60€ in the plus.
Casumo 20€ in 40€ out
Betano 15€ in and 400€ out, not through the 15€ but the whole no Deposit free spins. Betano also has one of the fastest payouts to bank accounts, almost instant.
I will also never deposit more than 10-20€ per month in a DE account, fun is what anderes😮💨
Pneumatic wrote on 01.06.2025 at 15:24: I almost never play in DE booths, but I can say that I am easily 500-600€ in the plus.
I will also never Deposit more than 10-20€ per month in a DE booth, fun is what anderes😮💨
I only play in German Online Casinos, but I can personally confirm the rest.
I've only been playing for about a year and am about €400 in the black & deposit a maximum of €10-20 a month, sometimes nothing for a month.
I only make a depositor if I have won in the days before, unless it is a particularly favorable offer (JP 1€ Bonuses, for example). Or the first deposit at a casino that is new to me.
Of course, this doesn't make me a good OC customer, but for me this low-roller gaming behavior, which could rightly be described as overcautious, is a good way to keep gaming under control and avoid the Risk of it getting out of hand.
If you only play with Bonus money or with money whose loss hardly hurts you because it is very small amounts & because you don't deposit more than you get out in the long term, then it is also more relaxed to play and there is no (really understandable) frustration factor that many players suffer from.
If you place small to very small bets on the right slots, the chances of wagering a bonus from time to time are not that bad.
Real money free spins bonuses or bonuses with 1x wagering are also available from time to time.
It can also be worth taking part in the Instagram competitions. At AdmiralBet, for example, I once won 10 real money FS & was able to cash out €90 directly.
The Player's Club at StarGames was pretty nice for a while, when you could still earn 2000 points per 5C bet every day (now weekly).
It took a while but then SG probably realized that this was a bit too generous for them...
upola wrote on 01.06.2025 at 16:17: I don't know why people are getting so upset.
Nobody is forced to play there.
If you're addicted, which I'm not accusing anyone of being, but I've heard that gamblers sometimes do.
And (or) if you don't want to make yourself liable to prosecution.
Then some people just stick to German, over-regulated OC, even though it p**ses them off.
At least that would be my explanation. Apart from that, I can't explain why some players continue to use German OCs despite their obvious extreme dissatisfaction with them.
Danny0815 wrote on 01.06.2025 at 16:53:
If you're addicted, which I'm not accusing anyone of here, but I've heard it happens occasionally with gamblers.
And (or) if you don't want to make yourself liable to prosecution.
Then some people just stick to German, over-regulated OC, even though it p**ses them off.
At least that would be my explanation. Otherwise, I can't explain why some players continue to use German OC despite their obvious extreme dissatisfaction with it.
That is certainly the case here.
Zock1967 complains about GGL / German casinos / Manipulation / rip-offs / etc. in virtually every post.
Apart from an addiction, it is inexplicable that if you are aware of being ripped off, you sign up to 6 different German casinos and then continue to do so.
Zock1967 wrote on 01.06.2025 at 14:32:
Or stop completely?
Best idea. There's either the 24-hour lock button as soon as you log in next time or a complete OASIS lock.
From my point of view, which I have worked out from your 29 posts so far, you will no longer achieve healthy gaming behavior. Continuing to play will inevitably end in frustration for you and a win for the provider.
It may be that I'm very captivated by gaming, but I wouldn't describe it as an addiction.
I've not played for long periods of time several times. The last time was from 2020 to February this year.
I never stopped because I didn't have the means, but because it wasn't fun anymore, because even back then there were quite strange processes. At the time, there were also accusations of Manipulation against various game providers and casinos.
Then came the withdrawal of almost all well-known MGA etc. casinos from the German market. Casinos from the German market and then slowly the introduction of the GGL Casinos.
This was completely uninteresting for me and so I simply stopped for almost 5 years and it wasn't difficult for me.
I signed up to some of the GGL casinos just to test them out and that's what I did.
I played the most at StarGames, Admiral and LeoVegas. I've already said goodbye to the latter. That didn't work at all.
I now have a strange feeling about Admiral and StarGames because certain things are always repeated. You get a feeling for it when you play very intensively for a while and I have.
Since the beginning of February, the fun has cost me almost 7000 euros. But that doesn't blow me away financially at all.
But what bothers me is when I'm being taken for a ride or have the feeling that I'm being taken for a ride.
The findings of the last few months speak for themselves. And many people probably see it that way too.
Hence my question about my experiences at crypto casinos........;
And yes.....the illegality and inexperience with crypto wallets have kept me away so far.
And if that doesn't suit me either, then I'll just stop again. That's not a problem for me. It would be for a gambling addict. So much for the topic....
I don't gamble to earn money, but for entertainment. Anyone who thinks rationally knows that you can't win.
The MGA casinos have been fun for a long time. The GGL casinos are pathetic and boring compared to.....
Zock1967 wrote on 01.06.2025 at 20:24: It may be that I'm very captivated by gaming, but I wouldn't call it an addiction.
I have not played for longer periods of time several times. The last time was from 2020 to February this year.
I never stopped because I didn't have the means, but because it wasn't fun anymore, because even back then there were quite strange processes. At the time, there were also accusations of Manipulation against various game providers and casinos.
Then came the withdrawal of almost all well-known MGA etc. casinos from the German market. Casinos from the German market and then slowly the introduction of the GGL Casinos.
This was completely uninteresting for me and so I simply stopped for almost 5 years and it wasn't difficult for me.
I signed up to some of the GGL casinos just to test them out and that's what I did.
I played the most at StarGames, Admiral and LeoVegas. I've already said goodbye to the latter. That didn't work at all.
I now have a strange feeling about Admiral and StarGames because certain things are always repeated. You get a feeling for it when you play very intensively for a while and I have.
Since the beginning of February, the fun has cost me almost 7000 euros. But that doesn't blow me away financially at all.
But what bothers me is when I'm being taken for a ride or have the feeling that I'm being taken for a ride.
The findings of the last few months speak for themselves. And many people probably see it that way too.
Hence my question about my experiences at crypto casinos........;
And yes.....the illegality and inexperience with crypto wallets have kept me away so far.
And if that doesn't suit me either, then I'll just stop again. That's not a problem for me. It would be for a gambling addict. So much for the topic....
I don't gamble to earn money, but for entertainment. Anyone who thinks rationally knows that you can't win.
The MGA casinos have been fun for a long time. The GGL casinos are pathetic and boring places in comparison.....
Crypto casinos have much better RTP values. But be aware that a better RTP doesn't automatically mean more wins.
If you want to give such casinos a chance, then there are the well-known sites where you can play "worry-free". With some, there is a Risk that your account will be blocked and you will have to run after your balance (if they want to pay it out to you).
I would also recommend that you find someone who has already played there and with whom you can sit down privately. You should be able to find someone here in the forum who can explain and show you step-by-step. But it's not difficult in itself. You just have to do a few things and once you've seen how to pay in and out, it's not difficult at all. It only costs a few € in fees.
I no longer Deposit in Online Casinos and only try to get something through no deposit offers.
I've learned from the past and often made very unnecessary depositors!
I'm also happy about payouts of €30 to €50, which I've been able to do more often at Starscream casinos recently 😊
At StarGames and Tipico I'm also in the plus with 500-700 euros I'm just annoyed by the 5 second rule so much, especially when wagering Bonuses it's extremely annoying. 2 Euro max bet, 5 sec rule gone then I would like to be there...
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In my opinion, you should get out of the habit. The same monotonous processes in all these casinos.
It seems very controlled to me and you don't stand a chance.
It is particularly noticeable:
Hours-long feeding phases without free spins
There are also hardly any medium and higher winning pictures.
Free spins only very rarely bring anything. As a rule, the results can be described as grotesquely bad.
Let's take 10 book games as an example:
20 cent games for around 3 to 5 euros
40 cent games around 8 to 12 euros
50 cent games around 12 to 18 euros
1 Euro games around 20 to 40 Euro
In short.........lächerlich....
Of course there are exceptions both upwards but rather downwards (very often zero rounds)
If you have bonus games, the games then suddenly drop and often so much that you have no chance of making the sales anyway. Not bad either and this happens remarkably often.
But it doesn't matter what you play in these booths. The result is always bad 95 percent of the time.
This may be due to regulation in this country, but it is also very likely due to certain "attitudes that don't exist"
These are probably agreed between the game providers or manufacturers and the respective casinos.
In my opinion, chance plays almost no role at all here.
In my circle of friends, almost everyone who gambles regularly now believes this.
But what to do?
Turn your back on German or GGL casinos and play in crypto casinos?
Is it better to play in non-GGL casinos?
Or stop completely?
I'll give it a try in the short term. I just need to get to grips with the crypto topic more intensively beforehand or I'm already doing so.
I've tested so many of the German casinos now and they are by far the worst:
Admiral bet
StarGames
Leo Vegas
Tipico
Bwin
Betano
In my opinion, you can really feel that things are more than strange with them.
LeoVegas is the worst. They feed you and then there are only blows. Very, very bad.
Do you have similar experiences?
How are the crypto gamblers doing?
I just feel like I'm being taken for a ride at GGL..
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Wunderino 10€ deposited 90€ paid out.
Sun games through the real money play n go free spins 60€ in the plus.
Casumo 20€ in 40€ out
Betano 15€ in and 400€ out, not through the 15€ but the whole no Deposit free spins. Betano also has one of the fastest payouts to bank accounts, almost instant.
I will also never deposit more than 10-20€ per month in a DE account, fun is what anderes😮💨
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Nobody is forced to play there.
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I only play in German Online Casinos, but I can personally confirm the rest.
I've only been playing for about a year and am about €400 in the black & deposit a maximum of €10-20 a month, sometimes nothing for a month.
I only make a depositor if I have won in the days before, unless it is a particularly favorable offer (JP 1€ Bonuses, for example). Or the first deposit at a casino that is new to me.
Of course, this doesn't make me a good OC customer, but for me this low-roller gaming behavior, which could rightly be described as overcautious, is a good way to keep gaming under control and avoid the Risk of it getting out of hand.
If you only play with Bonus money or with money whose loss hardly hurts you because it is very small amounts & because you don't deposit more than you get out in the long term, then it is also more relaxed to play and there is no (really understandable) frustration factor that many players suffer from.
If you place small to very small bets on the right slots, the chances of wagering a bonus from time to time are not that bad.
Real money free spins bonuses or bonuses with 1x wagering are also available from time to time.
It can also be worth taking part in the Instagram competitions. At AdmiralBet, for example, I once won 10 real money FS & was able to cash out €90 directly.
The Player's Club at StarGames was pretty nice for a while, when you could still earn 2000 points per 5C bet every day (now weekly).
It took a while but then SG probably realized that this was a bit too generous for them...
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If you're addicted, which I'm not accusing anyone of being, but I've heard that gamblers sometimes do.
And (or) if you don't want to make yourself liable to prosecution.
Then some people just stick to German, over-regulated OC, even though it p**ses them off.
At least that would be my explanation. Apart from that, I can't explain why some players continue to use German OCs despite their obvious extreme dissatisfaction with them.
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That is certainly the case here.
Zock1967 complains about GGL / German casinos / Manipulation / rip-offs / etc. in virtually every post.
Apart from an addiction, it is inexplicable that if you are aware of being ripped off, you sign up to 6 different German casinos and then continue to do so.
Best idea. There's either the 24-hour lock button as soon as you log in next time or a complete OASIS lock.
From my point of view, which I have worked out from your 29 posts so far, you will no longer achieve healthy gaming behavior. Continuing to play will inevitably end in frustration for you and a win for the provider.
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I've not played for long periods of time several times. The last time was from 2020 to February this year.
I never stopped because I didn't have the means, but because it wasn't fun anymore, because even back then there were quite strange processes. At the time, there were also accusations of Manipulation against various game providers and casinos.
Then came the withdrawal of almost all well-known MGA etc. casinos from the German market. Casinos from the German market and then slowly the introduction of the GGL Casinos.
This was completely uninteresting for me and so I simply stopped for almost 5 years and it wasn't difficult for me.
I signed up to some of the GGL casinos just to test them out and that's what I did.
I played the most at StarGames, Admiral and LeoVegas. I've already said goodbye to the latter. That didn't work at all.
I now have a strange feeling about Admiral and StarGames because certain things are always repeated. You get a feeling for it when you play very intensively for a while and I have.
Since the beginning of February, the fun has cost me almost 7000 euros. But that doesn't blow me away financially at all.
But what bothers me is when I'm being taken for a ride or have the feeling that I'm being taken for a ride.
The findings of the last few months speak for themselves. And many people probably see it that way too.
Hence my question about my experiences at crypto casinos........;
And yes.....the illegality and inexperience with crypto wallets have kept me away so far.
And if that doesn't suit me either, then I'll just stop again. That's not a problem for me. It would be for a gambling addict. So much for the topic....
I don't gamble to earn money, but for entertainment. Anyone who thinks rationally knows that you can't win.
The MGA casinos have been fun for a long time. The GGL casinos are pathetic and boring compared to.....
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Crypto casinos have much better RTP values. But be aware that a better RTP doesn't automatically mean more wins.
If you want to give such casinos a chance, then there are the well-known sites where you can play "worry-free". With some, there is a Risk that your account will be blocked and you will have to run after your balance (if they want to pay it out to you).
I would also recommend that you find someone who has already played there and with whom you can sit down privately. You should be able to find someone here in the forum who can explain and show you step-by-step. But it's not difficult in itself. You just have to do a few things and once you've seen how to pay in and out, it's not difficult at all. It only costs a few € in fees.
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I've learned from the past and often made very unnecessary depositors!
I'm also happy about payouts of €30 to €50, which I've been able to do more often at Starscream casinos recently 😊
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