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Haha hey my good man, the quote you quoted referred to this 😜😂 it only says that the account will be terminated if it is repeated, and NOT that no report/notification has been made, the advisor wouldn't know about the report anyway, that's a separate department.
The suspicion alone must be reported (in this case, reporting is rather just reporting to the competent authority, and not a report that is filed as in the case of assault, etc.)
Hopefully you can still manage seven amounts 😅
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In most cases, you had a complaint after a dismissal and because of this complaint/report, most of them got a note ("invitation") from the police afterwards Of course not a "have to", but better be prepared for the worst if he should repeat it.
Of course I can still do it there are only 6 left ;D
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Yes, exactly that, after/with a termination the notification/report is made, but just because the account has not been terminated does not exclude the reporting of suspicion of participation in illegal gambling aus☝️
You're about to win the challenge 😁
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Of course, it's also possible, I don't want to rule it out, but 90% of people felt it was account termination and then the report. I don't remember anyone getting a report and still having the account^^
Yup, now there are only 4 left
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You can't rule out that something was changed in the procedure, if the account is canceled directly without giving reasons only with reference to the terms and conditions, it is difficult to prove intent 😁
They shouldn't be able to terminate you because of a suspicion, without any proven guilt, so a change in procedure would make sense 🤷
Someone has just done it 🔥🏆
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What do you mean by only the suspicion being reported? That worries me a bit again. In my "file" it says "became conspicuous". Isn't it more likely that they are now monitoring me and if this continues there is really serious suspicion and they will report it to the FIU? It is up to the banks to decide whether there is only a conspicuousness or a suspicion according to the paragraph. My advisor told me that she finds out everything about me because everything goes through her desk anyway. I don't know whether she is a higher "animal" apart from the "advisor" there
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""Hello Ms. (name of my advisor), §261 StGB has been rewritten. This means that the previous list of predicate offenses for suspected money laundering charges no longer applies. Now, even the suspicion or simple criminal offense must be reported. This also includes participation in unauthorized gambling, especially if wins or proceeds are obtained from this . These are direct or indirect incoming payments from gambling providers not licensed in Schleswig-Holstein and Saxony-Anhalt (the links to the lists of licensed providers are provided below)."
What role does a "serious" suspicion play if the suspicion/simple offense is already reportable? What is a serious suspicion anyway?
Is it at the discretion of the bank whether there is only a conspicuousness or a suspicion?
" We suspect that you are using your current account with the number XXXXXXXXXXX to participate in unauthorized gambling in accordance with §285 of the German Criminal Code. This constitutes good cause for termination without notice in accordance with section 26 (2) of our General Terms and Conditions. We therefore request that you refrain from participating in unauthorized gambling immediately and for the future. Otherwise, we will terminate your above-mentioned current account."
There is a suspicion of money laundering (§261 StGB) AND illegal gambling (according to §285). So what makes you think that there is NO suspicion? Because the advisor told you so?
"My counselor told me she finds out everything about me because everything goes through her desk anyway. I don't know if she is a higher "animal" apart from the "counselor" there "
What do you mean by that? Your counselor either doesn't know any better or she's simply lying! Your counselor doesn't get everything on her desk, how do I know that?
" The tax is paid in. (and so on and so forth)
Yours sincerely,
XXXXXXXX (Compliance Management)"
Compliance is independent of other departments of the bank and and is not subject to instructions. The compliance system includes, in particular, guidelines and mechanisms for dealing with conflicts of interest, preventing insider trading and preventing money laundering and terrorist financing. (Google)
This is the task of a compliance department at a bank, which means they can report without informing other departments in the bank or obtaining their consent, so it doesn't matter how high up the person you spoke to sits, they simply have no influence on it, and even IF they did, why should the advisor Risk personal consequences and why should the bank not report it and thus risk a penalty itself?
Of course I hope for your sake that nothing further happens and that no report of suspicion (reporting is the reporting of suspicion/conspicuousness) has been made, but I have serious doubts about that, but since this place is closed tomorrow, I wanted to point this out to you (in case you get mail from the police) and you then run to the lawyer in a panic and throw hundreds of euros out of the window.
"Isn't it more likely now that they're watching me and if this continues there's really serious suspicion and they'll report it to the FIU?"
Of course they're watching you, that's what they wrote:
"If they do not notice any change in behavior 14 days after receipt of the letter by the customer, they will hand over the engagement to XXXXXXXX processing after consultation with us."
Letter sent with threat of termination. Account is now being closely monitored.""
This means nothing other than that your account will be monitored, i.e. very thoroughly checked, and your account will then be terminated if necessary for further illegal transactions, but this has absolutely nothing to do with reporting the violation itself, these are completely different administrative processes.
Damn this has gotten long 😂😂
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