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Casino verification: sunmaker and sunnyplayer suddenly want bank data (Page 3)

Topic created on 07th Dec. 2021 | Page: 3 of 4 | Answers: 35 | Views: 8,460
Niroht
Experienced
Slavefighter wrote on 12/12/2021 at 23:09: Hi there,

But whether I upload X documents now (like complete pay stubs or bank statements)
this would be a realtiv fast procedure.

Because bank data query or other in the form, violates banking secrecy.

I think that's what they're aiming for, our convenience
And to the banking secrecy, where is the violation of it, please? You would have agreed to the whole thing before it was carried out, right?
With a consent is no longer a violation, or am I mentally on the wrong track?

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Eddie
Amateur
If you agree that a dubious casino / company examines the whole account is also no violation.But I do not understand the sense behind it.You can Deposit in seconds several thousand euros without anyone cares.And as soon as they have to pay what should be checked the account. Bullshit like that, because they never have the right to do so, at least not to carry out a payout.

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uno122085
Rookie
gamble1 wrote on 07.12.2021 at 23:09: I just noticed that the data is requested again no idea why after years a new Verification is necessary but good


you can also verify via ID and selfie including smile and turn head at the so-called life recognition only I am constantly rejected there it remains so only the method online banking + tan release

Is someone else also rejected the alternative to online banking I do not want to let someone look at my account but do not understand why I am always rejected

The following points come up for me

1) ID photo in front

2) ID card photo behind

3) Selfie

4) Life recognition = close eyes + turn head + smile

5) Transmit data = Failed

Then comes the request to do everything via online banking

Edit : If the only name etc. can see ok but mostly such a system is used for lending and since they can usually see everything from expenses to income and that's really nothing to the now I think

Have the same problem! About 50 times (!) Tried and so far ALWAYS completed as "unsuccessful", although NO error on my part has been present!

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Krabbenburger
Experienced
Thorin2017 wrote on 12/13/2021 at 12:34 PM
But that is not so at all.
Anyone can make the effort and once and read the terms of use and privacy policy of the executing company Fintec
There is not as suggested the address data, identity, etc. checked. That could also be done by ID card or video ID.
Since your account is screened as you would want to take out a loan
So from my side, I will not perform this type of Verification

As proof:

I just logged in again and went through the steps, i.e. entered the bank and then the page appears where you can enter your account number and login data. And there are under the consent button the terms of use and privacy policy of the executing company Fintec.

And there you can find such treasures as in the privacy policy :

1.1 By activating the 1st checkbox you agree that FTS processes personal data as follows in order to retrieve account information once and to transmit this information to your Provider:

    a) Categories of personal data concerned

    • Log data
      * Date and time of access * IP address (if requested by your bank) * Browser type and version * Operating system used *Pages accessed/transactions made in online banking.

    • Online Banking - Access data
      Our product is based on functionalities of your online banking. In order to use our product, we must be able to access your online account. For this purpose, the online banking login data associated with your account is requested and transmitted to your bank via our systems using an encrypted procedure. At some banks, we use special standard interfaces of your bank for this purpose (e.g. FinTS or a dedicated interface for third-party service providers). With other banks, access takes place via the user interface of your online banking, as if you were logging in there yourself. The login data (e.g. PIN) is only used to establish the connection to your online banking and is not permanently stored by FTS. The transmission to us and to your bank takes place via an encrypted connection that complies with banking standards.

    • Bank account information and financial information
      Once connected to your online banking, if multiple bank accounts are available and no pre-selection has been made by your provider, they will be displayed accordingly for you to select. Once you have selected an account, the following data can be read by us: * Bank connection data (account holder, account name, IBAN, BIC, account number, sort code) * Financial information (account balance, drawing limit, overdraft facility, transactions up to 365 days in the past, standing orders, scheduled transfers). In the context of the processing and transmission of account transactions, special categories of personal data within the meaning of Article 9 (1) DSGVO may also be affected. These are data on racial and ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical beliefs, trade un ion membership, health data or data on the sex life or sexual orientation of a natural person. Processing of personal data of these special categories occurs if, for example, conclusions about your political opinion can be drawn from the transfer of a donation to a political party. In this respect, your consent also relates to the processing of special categories of personal data, insofar as this can be inferred from your financial information.







Especially this is also explosive :
" In the context of the processing and transmission of account transactions, special categories of personal data within the meaning of Article 9(1) of the GDPR may also be affected. These are data on racial and ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical beliefs, trade un ion membership, health data or data concerning the sex life or sexual orientation of a natural person......"

So sorry whoever is playing along has really lost control of their life .
And of course 365 days of account transactions are viewed and categorized .
Compared to that the data octopus Facebook is harmless .....

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GoodFellas
Amateur
Krabbenburger wrote on 12/13/2021 at 9:32 pm
Especially this is also explosive :
" In the context of the processing and transmission of account transactions, special categories of personal data within the meaning of Article 9(1) of the GDPR may also be affected. These are data on racial and ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical beliefs, trade un ion membership, health data or data concerning the sex life or sexual orientation of a natural person......"

So sorry whoever is playing along has really lost control of their life .
And of course 365 days of account transactions are viewed and categorized .
Compared to that the data octopus Facebook is harmless .....

I see the same👌

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gamble1
Legend
Krabbenburger wrote on 12/13/2021 at 21:32
Especially this is also explosive :
" In the context of the processing and transmission of account transactions, special categories of personal data within the meaning of Article 9(1) of the GDPR may also be affected. These are data on racial and ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical beliefs, trade un ion membership, health data or data concerning the sex life or sexual orientation of a natural person......"

So sorry whoever is playing along has really lost control of their life .
And of course 365 days of account transactions are viewed and categorized .
Compared to that the data octopus Facebook is harmless .....

Well as I said I understand it when a bank checks these infos for an online loan for such cases this system was developed but why a casino needs this version sorry I think that is not in any sheet to the regulation

Or do you think there is simply no system where only the essential retrieves such as name address etc...?


@uno122085

I can not tell you exactly what it was I suddenly got a mail from the support staff who then settled my VIP affairs with the info I am verified and can continue to play the fact is you are most likely doing nothing wrong the system is just spinning but somewhere is there anyway the worm in it the FS for the bonus ladder does not load or the whole game does not load

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Stromberg
Legend
gamble1 wrote on 14.12.2021 at 04:33
Well as I said I understand it when a bank checks these infos for an online credit for such cases this system was developed but why a casino needs this version sorry I think this is not in any leaf for regulation

Or do you think there is simply no system where only the essential retrieves such as name address etc...?


@uno122085

I can not tell you exactly what it was I suddenly got a mail from the support staff who then settled my VIP affairs with the info I am verified and can continue to play the fact is you are most likely doing nothing wrong the system is just spinning but somewhere is there anyway the worm in it the FS for the bonus ladder does not load or the whole game does not load


So I do not use online banking and could uberall where I play, alternatively verify idnow etc...
So the syten is very much there and the casino probably does not need this data. Rather, it is probably the service Provider that performs the Verification, which simply grants itself these Abfragrrechte and the casinos are in the best case no matter....
Possibly it is also a very favorable way of verification for the casinos, because the service providers are "paid" with the data.
Is now but pure speculation, but perhaps conceivable

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gamble1
Legend
Stromberg wrote on 12/14/2021 at 10:26 am
So I don't use online banking and could verify uberall where I play, alternatively idnow etc...
So the syten is very much there and the casino probably does not need this data. Rather, it is probably the service Provider that performs the Verification, which simply grants itself these Abfragrrechte and the casinos are in the best case no matter....
Possibly it is also a very favorable way of verification for the casinos, because the service providers are "paid" with the data.
Is now but pure speculation, but perhaps conceivable.

Well I think that these companies are serious as said the system in and for itself has its legitimate reasons only counts in my opinion a casino not to the companies that should see account balances because you could too quickly assume that they could lure customers who have more

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Stromberg
Legend
gamble1 wrote on 14.12.2021 at 13:33
Well I think that these companies are serious as I said the system itself has its legitimate reasons but in my opinion a casino is not one of the companies that should see account balances because you could too quickly assume that they could lure in customers who have more


Sure, I would now Google zb also not as unseriös call, whether this miserable data collection is therefore good to be called, but is another question... With personalized advertising I can also still live well, but if then the topics of gambling, account, credit agencies at once so directly together, that is already something questionable I think

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gamble1
Legend
Stromberg wrote on 14.12.2021 at 13:46
Sure, I would now Google zb also not call unseriös, whether this miserable data collection is therefore good, but is another question... With personalized advertising I can also still live well, but if then the topics of gambling, account, credit bureaus at once so directly together, this is already somewhat questionable I think

Of course I agree with you fully just wanted to clarify again that just sunmaker in this case is simply a customer and probably not the background was so clear and they have simply taken the first solution where seemed right

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