guess why I'm writing here after midnight? Some know it for sure. You beat the nights around the ears with these stupid machines.
Briefly to me:
I am 28 years old and have been gambling since I was 17. It started with sports betting and small stakes. 2 Euros became 40 Euros - you know the drill. Although I often lost more than I wanted to, the real mess started with the slot machines.
A good friend got me to accompany him to an arcade. At first, I didn't enjoy it at all, but that came with time. For the first few years, we only ever went to the arcades with 20 euros each. Even that hurt back then as a student, of course. Also in the following years, until last year, we always went to the halls with only 50-120 euros per person, and then shared the (rare) win.
The sports betting ran on the side here and there. Monthly I have lost something like between 200 and in rare cases 400 euros. Quite a bit of money, but still bearable
Often we have resolved to stop and have done that then partly also 5-6 months, however, the idea came up again and again that one could go again and zack one was again in the vicious circle.
However, it has only been bad since May of last year. I finally moved in with the woman of my dreams, and because of the distance to my old boyfriend and the fact that you should always come home early in the evening, my hope was that the arcades would finally be over. Then came the online casino that has brought me again absolutely to the next level.
I had, for my conditions, actually in all the months good money. However, I then had the absolute loss of control in the Online Casinos, mostly in the evenings. I often lost sums of 400 to 500 euros in one evening. In December then the absolute low point. On 31 November the salary was there and in the night to the first I have then lost 750 euros. Exactly one day later again 530. That corresponded to approximately half of my wage. Then on St. Nicholas another 500 euros were sunk. We had the eighth and I still had about 100 euros. Wow, I had to get by on that. Due to Bonuses at work I had some money again, which I used to continue gambling. At the end of December, I had another win of about 800 euros and wanted to start the new year great.
On December 31st I gambled away another 300 euros in the hope that I would finally stop gambling in the new year. That lasted 5 days and I lost 150, then one day later another 350. You talk it up of course by saying, well, it was only the "won money"
Today I deposited another hundred euros and was even up to 700 euros. And here is the crux of the matter. I was up so many times, but just not able to cash out. Do you guys feel the same way? Often I had days where I was 300-400 euros and rarely sometimes 800-900 euros in the plus, but just could not pay out.
The thought process was then usually the following, if I had for example 900€ on the clock. Okay 700 I get out safely. Up to 700 he gives then absolutely nothing and I think to myself, okay now he must but slowly again rausrücken what (absolute stupidity of course, because the machine has no memory). If I then fall reasonably far below 700, I think to myself, okay again to 700 high and I get out then directly everything (who believes... ) ...has the machine then at some point the absolute dead and I fall to 400-500 euros, I think to myself then okay all or nothing. at 200-300 I increase mostly out of frustration again the bet, until it then goes to 0.
Today I had at least the luck that "only" about a hundred euros landed in the casino. However, I ask myself EVERY time how I can be so stupid. I've already read through all sorts of publications on the psychology of casinos. Know that we are hard manipulated by the frequency of events and the high dopamine release, etc. Also that we all destroy our reward center by gambling and therefore there is hardly anything worth striving for in life that gives us pleasure.
Gambling addiction is an absolutely terrible drug that causes lasting damage. In my life, summa summarum certainly 20-30K draufgegangen, if not more. However, in the last six months alone, 5000€. That hurts a lot.
Fortunately, I have never been in the situation that I have made debts to be able to gamble. However, I'm absolutely terrified that I might reach the next level of addiction, which I absolutely want to avoid, since my life is actually wonderful right now. I am now earning more money, which can also lead to more going to the casino
The question of "why" just won't let me go. We are doing something that we absolutely know is bad for us after all. I also notice that I have become more jaded by it. In the past, it would have been the end of the world for me to lose these sums. In the meantime, I lose 500 euros, and of course I'm very angry with myself for a moment, but then I start planning my end of the game again and somehow I'm able to cope with it quite calmly. I have completely lost the relationship to the money and it becomes painfully clear to me again only when, for example, something is to be purchased for the household. Then my girlfriend comes and says, we now have to save up for a new washing machine for 450 euros and I gambled away 600 euros last night. That tears my heart apart. In the same way, I am usually quite stingy when it comes to my own purchases. A pair of shoes for 100 euros? I would never buy that. spend 800 euros for nothing in return? - Well, sure, I'm game.
Guys, I don't really know what to do. We just make the online casinos richer and richer. A system where we can only lose, that can't be it. I hate myself one night for my loss, the next I'm playing again. Simply insane.
I am of course locked out of most casinos myself, as it is always an affect reaction for me to lock myself out for the longest possible time at the end of my losing session. Unfortunately, you can always find alternative casinos
The German gambling contract has given me hope again, as I partly then unknowingly deposited a few euros at such and have absolutely zero fun with it. This may be due to the fact that I play 80% only Gamomat (ie Bally Wulff), as I have the most fun on the Risk ladder. This has been the case offline, where I've mainly played Merkur and Ballys with their Risk Ladder. Unfortunately, it seems that there are still enough providers who stick to their Malta, Cyprus, Curacao license.
Sorry I have lost the thread here, because I just write everything from the soul. Einstein once said: Stupid is the one who always does the same thing and expects different results. This time I'm trying to do something different, to communicate here in the forum and hope that I stay away from the shit through the exchange with you.
Of course, I know that gaming per sé can also just be a fun pastime for many. Often I think that it's great when I team up with a colleague, watch sports in peace and for the thrill still makes a bill for the side. Unfortunately, it never stays that way, because you often come so close to winning that you think the next one will bang. Probably an absolute cut, which concerns the gambling is the only right way, especially if you are so prone to addiction, as I am.
If I just never gambled again starting today, my life could be so beautiful. If only I could do that
Well always getting back up and trying is probably still better than just giving up.
Keep your fingers crossed for me, just like I keep my fingers crossed for each and every one of you who wants to quit.
It's not the next squeeze that's the win, it's just never squeezing again.
With that in mind, have a great week everyone.
PS: Gambling away money on Sunday evenings is really the worst. When you know that the next day the work calls again and you first have to work for days or weeks to bring in what you have gambled away in a few hours.
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Welcome to my world, almost then. I am 34 years old and have been addicted to gambling combined with amphetamine for 15 years. From bad to worse but problematic for 10 years but with Debt etc. I have always worked to keep everything going but I was released in November and was done with my life. Several times a year and on and off for the last 10 years. But enough is enough. In all those years of being awake at least 2 or 3 days and nights and responding well to stress, hardly a weekend went by. And in fact, I went back to work on Monday. I ruined everything, except mostly myself. I'm too stubborn, I don't have enough discipline, but mostly my own will and desires have since taught me that I don't think the chance of a normal life is zero. in 2018, I already had one suicide attempt behind me. I wish it would end by then. It can always be worse.
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simply plays with small change. 10 maximum 20 euro per week
write off the money as lost even before gambling. ( in the head )
The fact that you made a new account and posted such a post confirms how desperate you are.
I can empathize with your situation very well, even if I could never Deposit such high sums.
I have developed a problematic gambling behavior for about 3 years, which often complicates my everyday life and I create problems for myself that absolutely do not have to be.
To develop a healthy attitude towards gambling you definitely need someone who knows your problems, doesn't write you off as an addict but supports you in your struggle.
It's almost impossible to get out of the addiction alone, because it's the easiest way to screw yourself.
You say you are with the woman of your dreams, which is the best clue of all.
The motivation to stop in order not to lose her
If she really loves you, let her in on it.
Ask her to keep an eye on your behavior and to stress you out if you overdo it. Create barriers that protect you from losing control.
Mega text. Now you should also manage to pull through.
Of course, there are also people who gamble for fun and with control, but unfortunately there are also many who lose control as you described.
That's what the casinos want, that's how they make money.
In your case, if the addiction and the triggering is already so extreme, simply stop helps. Just remember: In the LONG run, you ALWAYS lose.
You have written that you have found the woman of your dreams. Does she know anything about it?
In the family circle should start your 2nd step of help - the first is your contribution and your own assessment that you have opened.
Since the thread creator has not commented on the topic in the last few days and has not logged back into GambleJoe, I will close the thread
In addition, we have noticed that very questionable statements on the subject of suicide have been written down here. In this regard, we would like to mention the following
If you suspect or realize that you are suffering from a Gambling addiction, the most important step is to overcome your shame and turn to a professional addiction counseling center. Such counseling centers can be found in every major city.
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guess why I'm writing here after midnight? Some know it for sure. You beat the nights around the ears with these stupid machines.
Briefly to me:
I am 28 years old and have been gambling since I was 17. It started with sports betting and small stakes. 2 Euros became 40 Euros - you know the drill. Although I often lost more than I wanted to, the real mess started with the slot machines.
A good friend got me to accompany him to an arcade. At first, I didn't enjoy it at all, but that came with time. For the first few years, we only ever went to the arcades with 20 euros each. Even that hurt back then as a student, of course. Also in the following years, until last year, we always went to the halls with only 50-120 euros per person, and then shared the (rare) win.
The sports betting ran on the side here and there. Monthly I have lost something like between 200 and in rare cases 400 euros. Quite a bit of money, but still bearable
Often we have resolved to stop and have done that then partly also 5-6 months, however, the idea came up again and again that one could go again and zack one was again in the vicious circle.
However, it has only been bad since May of last year. I finally moved in with the woman of my dreams, and because of the distance to my old boyfriend and the fact that you should always come home early in the evening, my hope was that the arcades would finally be over. Then came the online casino that has brought me again absolutely to the next level.
I had, for my conditions, actually in all the months good money. However, I then had the absolute loss of control in the Online Casinos, mostly in the evenings. I often lost sums of 400 to 500 euros in one evening. In December then the absolute low point. On 31 November the salary was there and in the night to the first I have then lost 750 euros. Exactly one day later again 530. That corresponded to approximately half of my wage. Then on St. Nicholas another 500 euros were sunk. We had the eighth and I still had about 100 euros. Wow, I had to get by on that. Due to Bonuses at work I had some money again, which I used to continue gambling. At the end of December, I had another win of about 800 euros and wanted to start the new year great.
On December 31st I gambled away another 300 euros in the hope that I would finally stop gambling in the new year. That lasted 5 days and I lost 150, then one day later another 350. You talk it up of course by saying, well, it was only the "won money"
Today I deposited another hundred euros and was even up to 700 euros. And here is the crux of the matter. I was up so many times, but just not able to cash out. Do you guys feel the same way? Often I had days where I was 300-400 euros and rarely sometimes 800-900 euros in the plus, but just could not pay out.
The thought process was then usually the following, if I had for example 900€ on the clock. Okay 700 I get out safely. Up to 700 he gives then absolutely nothing and I think to myself, okay now he must but slowly again rausrücken what (absolute stupidity of course, because the machine has no memory). If I then fall reasonably far below 700, I think to myself, okay again to 700 high and I get out then directly everything (who believes... ) ...has the machine then at some point the absolute dead and I fall to 400-500 euros, I think to myself then okay all or nothing. at 200-300 I increase mostly out of frustration again the bet, until it then goes to 0.
Today I had at least the luck that "only" about a hundred euros landed in the casino. However, I ask myself EVERY time how I can be so stupid. I've already read through all sorts of publications on the psychology of casinos. Know that we are hard manipulated by the frequency of events and the high dopamine release, etc. Also that we all destroy our reward center by gambling and therefore there is hardly anything worth striving for in life that gives us pleasure.
Gambling addiction is an absolutely terrible drug that causes lasting damage. In my life, summa summarum certainly 20-30K draufgegangen, if not more. However, in the last six months alone, 5000€. That hurts a lot.
Fortunately, I have never been in the situation that I have made debts to be able to gamble. However, I'm absolutely terrified that I might reach the next level of addiction, which I absolutely want to avoid, since my life is actually wonderful right now. I am now earning more money, which can also lead to more going to the casino
The question of "why" just won't let me go. We are doing something that we absolutely know is bad for us after all. I also notice that I have become more jaded by it. In the past, it would have been the end of the world for me to lose these sums. In the meantime, I lose 500 euros, and of course I'm very angry with myself for a moment, but then I start planning my end of the game again and somehow I'm able to cope with it quite calmly. I have completely lost the relationship to the money and it becomes painfully clear to me again only when, for example, something is to be purchased for the household. Then my girlfriend comes and says, we now have to save up for a new washing machine for 450 euros and I gambled away 600 euros last night. That tears my heart apart. In the same way, I am usually quite stingy when it comes to my own purchases. A pair of shoes for 100 euros? I would never buy that. spend 800 euros for nothing in return? - Well, sure, I'm game.
Guys, I don't really know what to do. We just make the online casinos richer and richer. A system where we can only lose, that can't be it. I hate myself one night for my loss, the next I'm playing again. Simply insane.
I am of course locked out of most casinos myself, as it is always an affect reaction for me to lock myself out for the longest possible time at the end of my losing session. Unfortunately, you can always find alternative casinos
The German gambling contract has given me hope again, as I partly then unknowingly deposited a few euros at such and have absolutely zero fun with it. This may be due to the fact that I play 80% only Gamomat (ie Bally Wulff), as I have the most fun on the Risk ladder. This has been the case offline, where I've mainly played Merkur and Ballys with their Risk Ladder. Unfortunately, it seems that there are still enough providers who stick to their Malta, Cyprus, Curacao license.
Sorry I have lost the thread here, because I just write everything from the soul. Einstein once said: Stupid is the one who always does the same thing and expects different results. This time I'm trying to do something different, to communicate here in the forum and hope that I stay away from the shit through the exchange with you.
Of course, I know that gaming per sé can also just be a fun pastime for many. Often I think that it's great when I team up with a colleague, watch sports in peace and for the thrill still makes a bill for the side. Unfortunately, it never stays that way, because you often come so close to winning that you think the next one will bang. Probably an absolute cut, which concerns the gambling is the only right way, especially if you are so prone to addiction, as I am.
If I just never gambled again starting today, my life could be so beautiful. If only I could do that
Well always getting back up and trying is probably still better than just giving up.
Keep your fingers crossed for me, just like I keep my fingers crossed for each and every one of you who wants to quit.
It's not the next squeeze that's the win, it's just never squeezing again.
With that in mind, have a great week everyone.
PS: Gambling away money on Sunday evenings is really the worst. When you know that the next day the work calls again and you first have to work for days or weeks to bring in what you have gambled away in a few hours.
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write off the money as lost even before gambling. ( in the head )
Hands off drugs, also no alcohol
More advice I can not give you
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I can empathize with your situation very well, even if I could never Deposit such high sums.
I have developed a problematic gambling behavior for about 3 years, which often complicates my everyday life and I create problems for myself that absolutely do not have to be.
To develop a healthy attitude towards gambling you definitely need someone who knows your problems, doesn't write you off as an addict but supports you in your struggle.
It's almost impossible to get out of the addiction alone, because it's the easiest way to screw yourself.
You say you are with the woman of your dreams, which is the best clue of all.
The motivation to stop in order not to lose her
If she really loves you, let her in on it.
Ask her to keep an eye on your behavior and to stress you out if you overdo it. Create barriers that protect you from losing control.
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Of course, there are also people who gamble for fun and with control, but unfortunately there are also many who lose control as you described.
That's what the casinos want, that's how they make money.
In your case, if the addiction and the triggering is already so extreme, simply stop helps. Just remember: In the LONG run, you ALWAYS lose.
You have written that you have found the woman of your dreams. Does she know anything about it?
In the family circle should start your 2nd step of help - the first is your contribution and your own assessment that you have opened.
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In addition, we have noticed that very questionable statements on the subject of suicide have been written down here. In this regard, we would like to mention the following
If you suspect or realize that you are suffering from a Gambling addiction, the most important step is to overcome your shame and turn to a professional addiction counseling center. Such counseling centers can be found in every major city.
A good overview of clinics, counseling centers and self-help groups can be found on the homepage of Fachverband Glücksspielsucht e.V. .
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