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Off topic & small talk: Call to the police on suspicion of money laundering (online casino win from 2 years ago)

Topic created on 13th Nov. 2023 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 4 | Views: 1,006
RaoulDuke
Hi, I had to register now because I got a terrible call last Friday.

About the situation:

I played a lot of OC 2 years ago (2021) (since the call I have not played at all, but since the "big" win 2 years ago I have only deposited small amounts and have not had any big wins)

I played Hyper/Wunderino back then and just won about 12k once split over 3 payouts but gradually gambled it all away again.

I received a call from a bank employee who wanted to know what it had to do with the outgoing/incoming money, to which I replied with online services payments, which he was satisfied with, but a little later my account was terminated without justification according to the terms and conditions (VR Bank).

I then changed banks and heard nothing more about the matter until Friday.

On Friday morning, I received a call from the local criminal investigation department asking if I would like to comment on the suspicion of money laundering etc. I was totally perplexed and described everything to him in the same way as here with casino names, I no longer have accounts with the two operators.

(I don't know if it was a mistake to comment but I was really excited)

In any case, according to my statements, the officer said he saw the transactions in question and assumed before the call that it was not money laundering but online gambling

He asked me if he could summarize this and pass it on to the public prosecutor's office, which I allowed him to do...

Finally, he told me that all my statements seemed plausible and that I should not expect anything except a letter saying that the matter had been settled.

But now I wanted to ask you if I might still get into trouble?

- Report of illegal gambling?
- Taxes on wins? Although the money is completely gone by now?
- Possibly even a HD (which I rather don't believe)

Thank you for your answers & time, hope you can take away my fear a little.

At least game-free, never OC again, last remaining account also deleted directly after the call...

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gamble1
Legend
So another investigation for illegal gambling can threaten you after your statement, but as a rule, if even the officer reacts like that, I wouldn't worry for now

Moreover, if the officer is already familiar with online gambling, it's not the first time he's heard of something like this and if the conversation was 1:1, he doesn't seem to criminalize this type of "offence" himself as much as the state does

A prosecutor has nothing to gain from a player he punishes for illegal gambling, the state doesn't really either, so just wait and see, but basically it's better not to say anything at all at first Some officials twist your words in your mouth, but here you seem to have come across someone who is not so extremely bad

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Rainmann
Expert

RaoulDuke wrote on 13.11.2023 at 12:53 pm: Hi had to register now because I got a terrible call last Friday.

About the situation:

I played a lot of OC 2 years ago (2021) (Since the call I have not played at all, but since the "big" win 2 years ago I have only deposited small amounts and have not had any big wins)

I played Hyper/Wunderino back then and just won about 12k once split over 3 payouts but gradually gambled it all away again.

I received a call from a bank employee who wanted to know what it had to do with the outgoing/incoming money, to which I replied with online services payments, which he was satisfied with, but a little later my account was terminated without justification according to the terms and conditions (VR Bank).

I then changed banks and heard nothing more about the matter until Friday.

On Friday morning, I received a call from the local criminal investigation department asking if I would like to comment on the suspicion of money laundering etc. I was totally perplexed and described everything to him in the same way as here with casino names, I no longer have accounts with the two operators.

(I don't know if it was a mistake to comment but I was really excited)

In any case, according to my statements, the official said he saw the transactions in question and assumed before the call that it was not money laundering but online gambling

He asked me if he could summarize this and pass it on to the public prosecutor's office, which I allowed him to do...

Finally, he said to me that all my statements seemed plausible and that I should not expect anything except a letter saying that the matter had been settled.

But now I wanted to ask you if I might still get into trouble?

- Report of illegal gambling?
- Taxes on wins? Although the money is completely gone by now?
- Possibly even a HD (which I rather don't believe)

Thank you for your answers & time, hope you can take away my fear a little.

At least game-free, never OC again, last remaining account also deleted directly after the call...

If the officer says something like that, I think you can assume that nothing else will happen.

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RaoulDuke
So first of all, thanks for the two answers - that calms me down a bit

The conversation went exactly as described, there's nothing to be gained by telling fairy tales and comparing them with your statements, I'd be lying to myself.

I don't have to reckon with a house search, do I? It would be pretty stupid of the authorities to give me a "heads up".

Although I wouldn't have anything to hide, it would just be stupid if my PC and everything else were gone for the purpose of gaming and producing music. (Games, not slots of course ).

The officer gave me the impression that he's made calls like this before and just wants me off his desk quickly. He took away my fear a little during the conversation with his calm, non-autocratic manner. I hardly ever know that from police officers.

Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I'll be happy to keep you up to date here if you're interested.

Kind regards

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gamble1
Legend

RaoulDuke wrote on 13.11.2023 at 19:47: So first of all thanks for the two answers reassures me a little

The conversation went exactly as described, there's nothing to tell me fairy tales and compare them with your statements, I'd be lying to myself.

I don't have to reckon with a house search, do I? It would be pretty stupid of the authorities to give me a "heads up".

Although I wouldn't have anything to hide, it would just be stupid if my PC and everything else were gone for the purpose of gaming and producing music. (Games, not slots of course ).

The officer gave me the impression that he's made calls like this before and just wants me off his desk quickly. He took away my fear a little during the conversation with his calm, non-autocratic manner. I hardly ever know that from police officers.

Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I'll be happy to keep you up to date here if you're interested.

Kind regards

A search is a means of collecting evidence, you are usually not contacted in advance, otherwise all the things they think they will find may already be gone, so you don't have to worry about that

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