I'm sure you can't give me a single example where the player was cheated by both the casino and the MGA, even though he was clearly in the right.
I have never claimed that the MGA "cheats", it does not and that is exactly the point: In doing nothing, this club is really good. Why is the topic MGA now coupled by you to a casino (both/as well) ? But well, this example has Seniorfips already posted ....
As a small incentive for you, I would even give away a PSC.
Where is the incentive there ????
First of all, you don't have to give me the example with N1.
Why exclude one of the MGA licensed casinos that has attracted attention several times precisely because of the IP issue or multiaccounting ?
Because on page 30 I have proven quite clearly that he by the taken bonus a Max. Cashout had. Only by the wrong error message it came to a misunderstanding
Proved you have in the thread times nothing, at best - like some others also - found that against (also) the bonus conditions was violated. would have times rather proven that the wrong error message is a misunderstanding instead of the (possible) deliberate attempt to bring players around your wins
I quote the following sentence from you in the thread: "The only question is why you are accused of multi-IP/multi-account. I believe that this is still a bug in the system. While errors are detected, they are misrepresented."
So believing a suspected issue is your proof ? I think I can write off the PSC now
Good against it I find the thread linked by you (if one reads it completely) a good decision guidance against the MGA-licensed N1 Casino is.
My favorite post is by the way the one from 2fast4uall which nicely bundles the problems -> Multi account accusation & no help from the MGA. At this point I have to say that it is almost ingenious that the MGA such "annoying problem customers" on arbitration bodies off-rolls your turn casino affiliates as livelihood operate (Askgamblers, thePogg, etc...) and proceed accordingly.
And what do you learn from this ? If you have problems with a casino then post your problem in all casino forums you can find. Who is not so fond of the English language can make the translations with Deepl.com - there your texts are translated almost perfectly - goes also super with letters to the MGA - which are unfortunately useless.
In addition, I also recommend to look for advice in any stream you find on Twitch or Youtube - you will often not get a satisfactory answer but that is not the purpose. The purpose is to bring these unfair practices to light (yes, the casinos really hate this trick!) because negative public statements cost reputation and possibly new customers and discourages already registered players from further deposits.
If you only attract enough attention, it is not uncommon for a suitable casino manager to appear who then "re-examines" the case, apologizes for the inconvenience and then releases the amount and you can even hope for goodwill in borderline cases.
All this you do not get with the help of the MGA, there is only weeks of waiting for a disappointment.
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Latino wrote on 05/25/2020 at 5:52 pm: @Royal777
Proved you have in the thread times nothing, at best - like some others also - found that against (also) the bonus conditions was violated.Had times rather proven that the wrong error message is a misunderstanding instead of the (possible) deliberate attempt to bring players around your wins
You are contradicting yourself, because here nobody tried to cheat the players out of their wins. The player has violated the Bonus terms and conditions and thus the issue is over.
Latino wrote on 25.05.2020 at 17:52: @Royal777:
My favorite post is by the way the one from 2fast4uall which nicely bundles the problematic -> Multi Account accusation & no help from the MGA . At this point I have to say that it is almost ingenious that the MGA such "annoying problem customers" on arbitration bodies roll off your turn casino affiliates as a livelihood operate (Askgamblers, thePogg, etc...) and proceed accordingly.
Not my favorite case, but another proof that the MGA or in the case "The POGG" is committed to the player. Florian was able to prove that he did not violate any bonus conditions by pointing out the "Dynamic IP". With Simon it was not possible, because he definitely violated the bonus terms.
He even mentioned in your linked post that he got his money. Funnily enough, no one except me "liked" his post.
Latino wrote on 05/25/2020 at 5:52pm: @Royal777:
In addition, I also recommend looking for advice in any stream you find on Twitch or Youtube - you often won't get a satisfactory answer but that's not the purpose.
You are contradicting yourself, because nobody tried to cheat the players out of their wins.
I do not have the slightest idea how you construct a contradiction here.
It is about the accusation of multiaccounting based on a "used" IP and the attached payout denial. The fact that in this particular case was determined afterwards that a violation of the bonus conditions is present does not make the accusation of multiaccounting undone - and why limit it to this one case ? There are a few more who were accused of this without violating the conditions...
To explain the system error you suspect as proof is very far-fetched - the corresponding database queries could be programmed by a beginner. Such systems are also tested extensively before they are put into productive use.
and thus the topic is through
Ah, so you declare the discussion over ?
Nevertheless I give you times an example like it looks if one contradicts itself, in addition I simply times you quote:
Not my favorite case, but another proof that the MGA or in this case "The POGG" stands up for the player. Florian could prove by the reference to the "Dynamic IP" that he has not violated any bonus conditions.
So the MGA and thePogg stood up for Florian : Quote Florian:"I then contacted the MGA, but they could not really help me. From them I was severely disappointed. They tried to redirect me to thepogg.com and made no effort to help me in any way."
Well Royal777, do you notice yourself ? MGA does nothing, the Pogg was not claimed at all and you see this as proof that the MGA / thePogg help the player ? Your attitude to the facts is not understandable unless one assumes you any relationship to the industry, only then it would make any sense.
Well, in the end, every forist who reads here can form his own opinion...
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I have never claimed that the MGA "cheats", it does not and that is exactly the point: In doing nothing, this club is really good. Why is the topic MGA now coupled by you to a casino (both/as well) ? But well, this example has Seniorfips already posted ....
Where is the incentive there ????
Why exclude one of the MGA licensed casinos that has attracted attention several times precisely because of the IP issue or multiaccounting ?
Proved you have in the thread times nothing, at best - like some others also - found that against (also) the bonus conditions was violated. would have times rather proven that the wrong error message is a misunderstanding instead of the (possible) deliberate attempt to bring players around your wins
I quote the following sentence from you in the thread: "The only question is why you are accused of multi-IP/multi-account. I believe that this is still a bug in the system. While errors are detected, they are misrepresented."
So believing a suspected issue is your proof ? I think I can write off the PSC now
Good against it I find the thread linked by you (if one reads it completely) a good decision guidance against the MGA-licensed N1 Casino is.
My favorite post is by the way the one from 2fast4uall which nicely bundles the problems -> Multi account accusation & no help from the MGA. At this point I have to say that it is almost ingenious that the MGA such "annoying problem customers" on arbitration bodies off-rolls your turn casino affiliates as livelihood operate (Askgamblers, thePogg, etc...) and proceed accordingly.
And what do you learn from this ? If you have problems with a casino then post your problem in all casino forums you can find. Who is not so fond of the English language can make the translations with Deepl.com - there your texts are translated almost perfectly - goes also super with letters to the MGA - which are unfortunately useless.
In addition, I also recommend to look for advice in any stream you find on Twitch or Youtube - you will often not get a satisfactory answer but that is not the purpose. The purpose is to bring these unfair practices to light (yes, the casinos really hate this trick!) because negative public statements cost reputation and possibly new customers and discourages already registered players from further deposits.
If you only attract enough attention, it is not uncommon for a suitable casino manager to appear who then "re-examines" the case, apologizes for the inconvenience and then releases the amount and you can even hope for goodwill in borderline cases.
All this you do not get with the help of the MGA, there is only weeks of waiting for a disappointment.
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You are contradicting yourself, because here nobody tried to cheat the players out of their wins. The player has violated the Bonus terms and conditions and thus the issue is over.
Not my favorite case, but another proof that the MGA or in the case "The POGG" is committed to the player. Florian was able to prove that he did not violate any bonus conditions by pointing out the "Dynamic IP". With Simon it was not possible, because he definitely violated the bonus terms.
He even mentioned in your linked post that he got his money. Funnily enough, no one except me "liked" his post.
We agree on that.
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I do not have the slightest idea how you construct a contradiction here.
It is about the accusation of multiaccounting based on a "used" IP and the attached payout denial. The fact that in this particular case was determined afterwards that a violation of the bonus conditions is present does not make the accusation of multiaccounting undone - and why limit it to this one case ? There are a few more who were accused of this without violating the conditions...
To explain the system error you suspect as proof is very far-fetched - the corresponding database queries could be programmed by a beginner. Such systems are also tested extensively before they are put into productive use.
Ah, so you declare the discussion over ?
Nevertheless I give you times an example like it looks if one contradicts itself, in addition I simply times you quote:
So the MGA and thePogg stood up for Florian : Quote Florian:"I then contacted the MGA, but they could not really help me. From them I was severely disappointed. They tried to redirect me to thepogg.com and made no effort to help me in any way."
Well Royal777, do you notice yourself ? MGA does nothing, the Pogg was not claimed at all and you see this as proof that the MGA / thePogg help the player ? Your attitude to the facts is not understandable unless one assumes you any relationship to the industry, only then it would make any sense.
Well, in the end, every forist who reads here can form his own opinion...
------------ snap & snap ------------
@ForumOwner
Since the topic of Blueprint via VPN to the discourse -Royal777 finds the MGA great / Latino finds the MGA useless- has drifted, the forum operators should think about closing the topic because it has to do with the input topic only on the edge, gladly also after Royal777 has expressed himself again (if he wants).
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