Moin together, am new here but already for years silent reader....
I had my addiction (since 2014) more or less under control and was never more than 1000 € minus. Nu I have but for 3 months no longer had a payout and am really despairing. Go now to the minus 5000 and it comes really nothing....unbelievable, no matter what game, no matter what stakes, play mostly from 40 cents to 1 €
Free spins are (if they come times really a joke a x 100 hit has become really damn rare, mostly so x8 to x20)
I'm also not in a position to just make a cut now....so I'm actually just waiting for my paycheck and see how it is shot away in 20 minutes....
DerDuskr wrote on 08.02.2023 at 16:52: Moin together, am new here but already for years silent reader....
I had my addiction (since 2014) more or less under control and was never more than 1000 € minus. Nu I have but for 3 months no longer had a payout and am really despairing. Go now to the minus 5000 and it comes really nothing....unbelievable, no matter what game, no matter what stakes, play mostly from 40 cents to 1 €
Free spins are (if they come times really a joke a x 100 hit has become really damn rare, mostly so x8 to x20)
I'm also not in a position to just make a cut now....so I'm actually just waiting for my paycheck and see how it is shot away in 20 minutes....
It used to be better
Welcome!
First of all, you definitely have to make a cut, everything else is just a procrastination and suppression. At some point the problems will pile up so much that there will be no smooth way out.
It's like toothache, there are ways and means to delay going to the dentist, but at some point you have to go, otherwise you end up in an unbearable state.
so I just wait for my salary and see how it's blown away in 20 minutes......
What would happen if you win 2.000€? Then the money would not be gone in 20 minutes but a few hours/days later, eventually it will be gone. And before this problem is not solved, all wins make no sense at all So to speak you need a relation to the money, you need to be able to value it again.
In a nutshell, playing makes absolutely no sense anymore.
Calling it a hobby is no longer possible because the fun is completely gone.
It is only a meaningless Deposit without significant wins.
I think many can confirm that. 2 years ago you had at least still his fun.
Often I read here basically out that high wins lead directly to the fact that the stakes are increased. One loses quasi "raffgierig" the control and in the end almost always stands there with empty hands. I can say from my modest point of view: I had a really good run in the middle of last year with a 200€ Deposit (non-sticky) and in the end a payout of 2.100€. Normally it would not have come to this sum, because I would have already paid out before. But I couldn't, because I think I had to wager x40 and it went on like a bomb. That pushed my budget well. My first thought was: with the money I can easily wager for months on 0.20-0.40 € and take bonuses. Something comes in every now and then. That's exactly how I did it. Nothing with "turn on 5€" or so...There are also zockfreie days (today e.g.....no desire somehow), but i.d.R. 2-4 hours in the evening and on 300 days in the year it will be already. Experts would certainly recognize an addictive behavior, but I'm more concerned with the loss of control, which is always so implied. It doesn't always have to be like that...I still venture around with the cash and have been able to expand that even further. That is even 2023 should now already be secured, if it does not go abysmally bad. Wonder why that is obviously not so widespread to act with a minimum of Risk management....Especially in such an area, which everyone here enjoys a lot, but can be very dangerous financially. If there is no more coal, you can no longer gamble...That would be a pity then, which is why at least I do everything I can to ensure that there is still some left Amen. What a novel...sorry...did not want to get so out of hand
Langhans wrote on 08.02.2023 at 23:08:
Often I read here basically out that high wins lead directly to the fact that the stakes are increased. One loses quasi "raffgierig" the control and in the end almost always stands there with empty hands.
I can say from my modest point of view: I had a really good run in the middle of last year with a 200€ Deposit (non-sticky) and in the end a payout of 2,100€. Normally it would not have come to this sum, because I would have already paid out before. But I couldn't, because I think I had to wager x40 and it went on like a bomb.
That pushed my budget well. My first thought was: with the money I can easily wager for months on 0.20-0.40 € and take bonuses. Something comes in every now and then. That's exactly how I did it. Nothing with "turn on 5€" or so...There are also zockfreie days (today e.g.....no desire somehow), but i.d.R. 2-4 hours in the evening and on 300 days in the year it will be already. Experts would certainly recognize an addictive behavior, but I'm more concerned with the loss of control, which is always so implied. It doesn't always have to be like that...I still venture around with the cash and have been able to expand that even further.
That is even 2023 should now already be secured, if it does not go abysmally bad. Wonder why that is obviously not so widespread to act with a minimum of Risk management....Especially in such an area, which everyone here enjoys a lot, but can be very dangerous financially. If there is no more coal, you can no longer gamble...That would be a pity then, which is why at least I do everything I can to ensure that there is still some left Amen. What a novel...sorry...did not want to get so out of hand
Your first thought after the win implies the approach of an addiction. This month-long planning ahead of deposits ensures you gamble and reflects a possible addiction. It is similar with smokers, there must always be enough cigarettes
On the other hand you can accept losses and don't pay until all the money is lost. You are very disciplined That's how everyone should play, but many players have a problem and don't have enough will to stop. These problem gamblers don't think about the future while gambling, they are caught up in their own madness. Only when the money is completely gambled, you feel a relief
February is always a bad month... I'm only playing demos at the moment. This may sound strange, but right now only a break is good. 2-3 weeks, maybe longer. Only then you win again. But since I like to play, the demo versions help. Gambling every day with money is like quicksand... nothing comes. Self-discipline is the key and you can't force anything. Taking a break is the magic word.
Your first thought after the win implies the approach of addiction. This planning months ahead of deposits ensures you gamble and reflects a POSSIBLE addiction. Similarly with smokers, there must always be enough cigarettes
On the other hand you can accept losses and don't pay until all the money is lost. You are very disciplined That's how everyone should play, but many players have a problem and don't have enough will to stop. These problem gamblers don't think about the future while gambling, they are caught up in their own madness. Only when the money is completely gambled, you feel a relief
To stay on topic;
My month runs mixed, minus 150€
Far more elementary than gambling are my cigarettes This crazy smoking...I am far less disciplined The coughing in the morning is long forgotten by noon
The gimmick is also important to me and even structures my daily routine to some extent, since I would like to have time for it roughly at 8 p.m., if I want to. That can be achieved certainly also differently...would say to me now if necessary an expert or also everyone and not wrongly. But I don't see that as a problem for me at the moment. For me it is a hobby with the possibility of profit.
I have always gambled something. In former times anyway everything possible and of it much too much....Money was not so important, now rather. Then relatively undisciplined in shares rumgemacht, which also became really expensive. There I was not very successful. Then longer break...Now again Online Casinos and with equally small stakes also sports betting - my former hobbyhorse. Now, however, the preservation of capital comes first and even if high stakes of course always provide a disproportionately higher thrill: my heart beats even at 40 cent free games and if something sticks in the end, I also dare 7 evenings of 4 hours at a stretch so that a hundred win lands on my account. My Excel list is happy...Documentation is important to me, because it also directly serves the imminent loss of control. Such a balance just does not lie Addendum: I spoke in the previous post of "Non Sticky...of course nonsense...he was sticky, otherwise I would not have had to stay so long in it. Order must be
Langhans wrote on 08.02.2023 at 23:08:
Often I read here basically out that high wins lead directly to the fact that the stakes are increased. One loses quasi "raffgierig" the control and in the end almost always stands there with empty hands.
I can say from my modest point of view: I had a really good run in the middle of last year with a 200€ Deposit (non-sticky) and in the end a payout of 2.100€. Normally it would not have come to this sum, because I would have already paid out before. But I couldn't, because I think I had to wager x40 and it went on like a bomb.
That pushed my budget well. My first thought was: with the money I can easily wager for months on 0.20-0.40 € and take bonuses. Something comes in every now and then. That's exactly how I did it. Nothing with "turn on 5€" or so...There are also zockfreie days (today e.g.....no desire somehow), but i.d.R. 2-4 hours in the evening and on 300 days in the year it will be already. Experts would certainly recognize an addictive behavior, but I'm more concerned with the loss of control, which is always so implied. It doesn't always have to be this way...I still venture around with the cash and have been able to expand that even further.
That is even 2023 should now already be secured, if it does not go abysmally bad. Wonder why that is obviously not so widespread, with a minimum of Risk management to act....Especially in such an area, which everyone here much joy, but can be very dangerous financially. If there is no more coal, you can no longer gamble...That would be a pity then, which is why at least I do everything I can to ensure that there is still some left Amen. What a novel...sorry...did not want to get so out of hand
the loss of control can come faster than you expect. Sticking to plans and intentions may work for some. But it can be just as well that you have a bad day after 5 months, gamble away more than you actually wanted and then comes the point whether you still have yourself under control or think, "shit, I'll get the loss back now".... In a short phase of loss of control, you can quickly gamble away several hundreds, if not thousands of euros. Minutes are enough. For a short time, the appreciation of money or the feeling of material value becomes blurred. Especially if one has made only plus for weeks before or it has run relatively well. Such a downswing can come out of nowhere, even for disciplined people.
Gambling is simply dangerous in regularity. But what am I talking about? It's nothing new.
I've already had a few losses of control, although I've always planned something else.
Hats off to the people who manage to stick to risk management over the long term!
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I have also already deposited 100 and have not come great over this Deposit, but have had 2 hours up and down. After that I have much less the urge to "top up" again because I at least got value for money.
However, if the 100 are through in 10 minutes without anything exciting or all free spins with 0 ends I feel triggered and put like stupid after....
Can start smoking and stop as I'm funny, sometimes smoke for weeks, then for years no more ...
Unfortunately for me there is nothing more relaxing and stress relieving than the crappy daddelkisten
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It's perfectly legitimate to play only demo mode from time to time.
Also there you can see virtually what you would have lost and after some time you lose
the desire and pays nothing on the day.
Even with the smallest stakes of 20-40 cents are quickly gone a few hundred dollars a month.
I actually only like to play in the mornings (home office), never in the evenings.
January went well, February so far nothing, but so far I have only deposited 4x20 euros.
Bit daddeln in the morning with the coffee, that's always enough for me.
Unfortunately, it's always the same casinos that offer a 100% bonus, where you're actually
not so happy to play (high wager, max cashout etc)
From the others comes almost nothing.
the loss of control can come faster than you expect. Sticking to plans and plans, may be that works for some. But it can be just as well that you have a bad day after 5 months, gamble away more than you actually wanted and then comes the point whether you still have yourself under control or think to yourself, "shit, I'm going to get the loss back".
You are very right about the sudden loss of control, which is always lurking and at least latently always present. I also had one after my new start as a gamer. At that time I was not quite as meticulously structured as now, but on 09.07.20 it escalated once. Freshly separated, quite nasty day been, too much boozed still in addition...The first 100€ still well-behaved with bonus on small stakes, then 700€ Raw (200/100/200/200) bombed behind and turned at the end on 3€-4€. The 800€ would have been on this evening also not yet the end of the flagpole...Then 1,350€ with Rise of Olympus hit and directly 1,400€ paid out. 600€ win - top evening, so to speak Joy hardly present, because the shock about myself was much too violent. Quite a lousy number, which I hope has cured me permanently. Something similar has not happened since then rudimentary again.
Sports betting is cruel this month so far. Slots, Poker and casino has been going really well since January. Deposited 35€ yesterday, had nice hits on Crazy Time with 4x on Cash Hunt and Super Sic Bo, 180€ out.
Then still FS of Dux gambled and immediately afterwards a call from them (a bit weird) get, whether I'm still satisfied with them. Then got from them with promo code for a 20€ Deposit 200 FS on 20 cents for Sweet Bonanza. So then 60€ won, but the 2400€ I would have to wager I have not even managed to 300€ on 5 cents, just run down about 1000x so in 1-2Std. But was certainly again so a max cashout things, from therefore wahrschl. not so bad.
Promocode was SWEET, but that goes yes wahrschl. eh only for selected users.
Good luck to you this month!
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I had my addiction (since 2014) more or less under control and was never more than 1000 € minus. Nu I have but for 3 months no longer had a payout and am really despairing. Go now to the minus 5000 and it comes really nothing....unbelievable, no matter what game, no matter what stakes, play mostly from 40 cents to 1 €
Free spins are (if they come times really a joke a x 100 hit has become really damn rare, mostly so x8 to x20)
I'm also not in a position to just make a cut now....so I'm actually just waiting for my paycheck and see how it is shot away in 20 minutes....
It used to be better
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Welcome!
First of all, you definitely have to make a cut, everything else is just a procrastination and suppression. At some point the problems will pile up so much that there will be no smooth way out.
It's like toothache, there are ways and means to delay going to the dentist, but at some point you have to go, otherwise you end up in an unbearable state.
What would happen if you win 2.000€? Then the money would not be gone in 20 minutes but a few hours/days later, eventually it will be gone. And before this problem is not solved, all wins make no sense at all So to speak you need a relation to the money, you need to be able to value it again.
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Calling it a hobby is no longer possible because the fun is completely gone.
It is only a meaningless Deposit without significant wins.
I think many can confirm that. 2 years ago you had at least still his fun.
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Your first thought after the win implies the approach of an addiction. This month-long planning ahead of deposits ensures you gamble and reflects a possible addiction. It is similar with smokers, there must always be enough cigarettes
On the other hand you can accept losses and don't pay until all the money is lost. You are very disciplined That's how everyone should play, but many players have a problem and don't have enough will to stop. These problem gamblers don't think about the future while gambling, they are caught up in their own madness. Only when the money is completely gambled, you feel a relief
To stay on topic;
My month runs mixed, minus 150€
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Far more elementary than gambling are my cigarettes This crazy smoking...I am far less disciplined The coughing in the morning is long forgotten by noon
The gimmick is also important to me and even structures my daily routine to some extent, since I would like to have time for it roughly at 8 p.m., if I want to. That can be achieved certainly also differently...would say to me now if necessary an expert or also everyone and not wrongly. But I don't see that as a problem for me at the moment. For me it is a hobby with the possibility of profit.
I have always gambled something. In former times anyway everything possible and of it much too much....Money was not so important, now rather. Then relatively undisciplined in shares rumgemacht, which also became really expensive. There I was not very successful. Then longer break...Now again Online Casinos and with equally small stakes also sports betting - my former hobbyhorse. Now, however, the preservation of capital comes first and even if high stakes of course always provide a disproportionately higher thrill: my heart beats even at 40 cent free games and if something sticks in the end, I also dare 7 evenings of 4 hours at a stretch so that a hundred win lands on my account. My Excel list is happy...Documentation is important to me, because it also directly serves the imminent loss of control. Such a balance just does not lie Addendum: I spoke in the previous post of "Non Sticky...of course nonsense...he was sticky, otherwise I would not have had to stay so long in it. Order must be
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the loss of control can come faster than you expect. Sticking to plans and intentions may work for some. But it can be just as well that you have a bad day after 5 months, gamble away more than you actually wanted and then comes the point whether you still have yourself under control or think, "shit, I'll get the loss back now".... In a short phase of loss of control, you can quickly gamble away several hundreds, if not thousands of euros. Minutes are enough. For a short time, the appreciation of money or the feeling of material value becomes blurred. Especially if one has made only plus for weeks before or it has run relatively well. Such a downswing can come out of nowhere, even for disciplined people.
Gambling is simply dangerous in regularity. But what am I talking about? It's nothing new.
I've already had a few losses of control, although I've always planned something else.
Hats off to the people who manage to stick to risk management over the long term!
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However, if the 100 are through in 10 minutes without anything exciting or all free spins with 0 ends I feel triggered and put like stupid after....
Can start smoking and stop as I'm funny, sometimes smoke for weeks, then for years no more ...
Unfortunately for me there is nothing more relaxing and stress relieving than the crappy daddelkisten
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Also there you can see virtually what you would have lost and after some time you lose
the desire and pays nothing on the day.
Even with the smallest stakes of 20-40 cents are quickly gone a few hundred dollars a month.
I actually only like to play in the mornings (home office), never in the evenings.
January went well, February so far nothing, but so far I have only deposited 4x20 euros.
Bit daddeln in the morning with the coffee, that's always enough for me.
Unfortunately, it's always the same casinos that offer a 100% bonus, where you're actually
not so happy to play (high wager, max cashout etc)
From the others comes almost nothing.
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You are very right about the sudden loss of control, which is always lurking and at least latently always present. I also had one after my new start as a gamer. At that time I was not quite as meticulously structured as now, but on 09.07.20 it escalated once. Freshly separated, quite nasty day been, too much boozed still in addition...The first 100€ still well-behaved with bonus on small stakes, then 700€ Raw (200/100/200/200) bombed behind and turned at the end on 3€-4€. The 800€ would have been on this evening also not yet the end of the flagpole...Then 1,350€ with Rise of Olympus hit and directly 1,400€ paid out. 600€ win - top evening, so to speak Joy hardly present, because the shock about myself was much too violent. Quite a lousy number, which I hope has cured me permanently. Something similar has not happened since then rudimentary again.
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Then still FS of Dux gambled and immediately afterwards a call from them (a bit weird) get, whether I'm still satisfied with them. Then got from them with promo code for a 20€ Deposit 200 FS on 20 cents for Sweet Bonanza. So then 60€ won, but the 2400€ I would have to wager I have not even managed to 300€ on 5 cents, just run down about 1000x so in 1-2Std. But was certainly again so a max cashout things, from therefore wahrschl. not so bad.
Promocode was SWEET, but that goes yes wahrschl. eh only for selected users.
Good luck to you this month!
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