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Online Casinos in general: GGL Casinos - Fraud under the cloak of a seemingly reputable license?

Topic created on 24th May. 2025 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 14 | Views: 1,237
Zock1967
Rookie
To put it in general terms:

Do you believe that Online Casinos are reputable just because they have a license from GGL or MGA?

I no longer do. For me, these are mafia-like conditions that prevail there. The lawsuits that were brought against Novomatic, for example, or against Gauselmann / Merkur were all about manipulation. Most of the cases were dropped at some point. Usually with strange arguments.

Certain people were probably sponsored and you have to keep them warm.

If you play for a long time and observe the processes of the games, I notice a certain redundancy.

There are days when certain games in a Cadino generally run poorly and that's the case for all the people I'm in contact with and who are playing there at the same time. Very strange, isn't it?

As if someone had flipped the switch. Either the machines don't throw anything at all or you get free spins that generally don't yield anything, without exception....and then it's the same for everyone you have contact with in the scene.

In my opinion, it's even getting worse. There are booths where you can literally feel that things are not going right.

A cadino could, for example, determine the extent of the Manipulation in advance with the game providers and then nothing or a lot happens.

I am firmly convinced that the game providers, on whose servers the games run, have every opportunity to manipulate things in such a way that it is not noticeable during checks.

I'm curious to see what you think about this.

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zocker0815
Expert
yes it looks like that i think it's much easier to manipulate online, see streamers, ect. why are there so many rules for Bonuses etc....
i think online you are already screwed once you have registered with your data...


i'll compare your statement with a casino where i've been playing regularly for over 2 years now, exactly what you've described also happens 1:1 in the casino with the machines


i'll write down the scenarios here that i notice when gambling...


no. 1 you can do what you want, high bet low bet no matter which machine, you only lose and you don't even get free spins...

no. 2 same scenario as no. 1 only with the difference that you often get free spins but there is never anything in it you still lose......

no. 3 you often have line wins and the machine keeps you on balance for a long time due to all the small wins but you still lose in the end and hit nothing big...

no. 4 the machines run well, often wins, and when free spins come up 100x to 200x

no. 5 the most improbable it runs really well you see other people win and then also 1000€-2000€ yourself


i have a gamble machine myself at home from Novomatik with Book of Ra Lucky Lady etc... and from experience you can also say that a time/date runs in the machine, even if it is not plugged in, through a battery on the platin.... what else I can say is that there are feeding phases with the machine where you can put in €10,000 nothing happens, and then you switch it on another day it spits out 4-5 jackpots within a very short time....


so in my opinion it's bullshit to play somewhere and say because of RTP or because you've deposited so much something has to happen

i think it's all about the date and time and then of course the machine has to have enough money in, and then when the time comes it knocks out what it can

i've seen people gamble away 20,000 on such machines in just a few hours, winning absolutely nothing... and the slot was still being played and only a few days later did it give a few back


and very importantly, many people here don't know that the Slot machine has a total RTP and an RTP on each bet, which I still know, for example, when you gamble, i.e. you get a win on book of ra, for example, and gamble on it, if you see on the old Slot machines that the previous gamble cards are covered up, it means that the whole machine has been reset, i.e. the machine starts all over again as if you were just putting money in for the first time, I see this at my casino, they do this every 2 months, why I don't know....

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Max_Bet
Expert
I have to give you credit for being persistent.
I think every player has had thoughts like that at some point, and if not, they'll come.
Shall I tell you the solution? Find another hobby or live with it.
It's not meant to be spiteful or anything, don't get me wrong, but you don't really have any more options.
Welcome to the crazy casino world 🤝🏻🌻

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Zock1967
Rookie
Yes, I was first welcomed there over 30 years ago. I have my own experiences.....and quite a few, whether offline or online. Although I haven't been offline for over 10 years.

That's when you notice certain things.

I'm obviously not alone in this.

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upola
Legend
We haven't had conspiracy theories here for a long time.

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WithoutWings
Expert
I can confirm that. If you gamble away the same amount every day for months in the same booths, you can recognize the patterns very well. I don't really care if people think it's a conspiracy, I know for myself that on various days and after depositing a certain amount X you get something again. It's no different to the automatic machines, which only work when there's XY in them.

A scenario e.g. ... you should pay out 3000 then you get it too, if I take a bonus e.g. 100% then it usually brings me to 3000 at the beginning... during the unsetting, which is always 6-12000 for me, it stays constant for hours at 3000... After the wagering you still have the 3000 no matter if you only had 1000 or 5000 in the meantime at the end you have the 3000. And that's always the case ... But if you keep playing after wagering the bonus, you usually lose... if you Deposit again 1-2 days later, you end up back at 3000... I've been playing this game for months... the free spins keep coming one after the other without end. But if you pay from... then it's dead in the water... Days or weeks, depending on how much you've shot back in. You always lose in the end, but it's rigged, at least with Dama and Hollycorn. And I've been playing online for 25 years now, over 10 of them.

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Zock1967
Rookie

upola wrote on 24.05.2025 at 14:11: We haven't had conspiracy theories here for a long time.

Maybe you should read up on the Gauselmann and Novomatic lawsuits. Pragmatic is even currently under investigation.


Just because there is a license from the state is not necessarily a guarantee that everything is running smoothly

Just look at the government, for example. They are also screwing us over (Tagesschau viewers please look away 🤪)

In the meantime, the so-called conspiracy theories have proven to be true in some areas.

So always be critical.....

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Zock1967
Rookie

WithoutWings wrote on 24.05.2025 at 14:53: I can confirm this. If you gamble the same amount every day for months in the same stalls, you can recognize the patterns very well. I don't really care if people think it's a conspiracy, I know for myself that on various days and after depositing a certain amount X you get something again. It's no different to the automatic machines, which only work if there is XY amount in them.

A scenario e.g. ... you should pay out 3000 then you get it too, if I take a bonus e.g. 100% then it usually brings me to 3000 at the beginning... during the unsetting, which is always 6-12000 for me, it stays constant for hours at 3000... After the wagering you still have the 3000 no matter if you only had 1000 or 5000 in the meantime at the end you have the 3000. And that's always the case ... But if you keep playing after wagering the bonus, you usually lose... if you Deposit again 1-2 days later, you end up back at 3000... I've been playing this game for months... the free spins keep coming one after the other without end. But if you pay from... then it's dead in the water... Days or weeks, depending on how much you've shot back in. You always lose in the end, but it's rigged, at least with Dama and Hollycorn. And I've been playing online for 25 years now, over 10 of them.

At the moment, StarGames and Admiral are dead in the water, at least for me and three friends.


No matter what we play, what bets. Nothing works.

In 6 hours 3 x games and all zero rounds
No medium and high pictures
Small win interval is conspicuously long

It's as if someone has flipped a switch (and this switch definitely exists)

It's always exactly this scenario. But that can't be.....random generator and controlled by the GGL.

Who believes it.....

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Langhans_innen
Elite
Good afternoon everyone,

before things go in the wrong direction, I must take the precaution of reminding you that political discussions are only welcome in the forum to a very limited extent. So, please continue with Random Generator & Co. but call it a day with brown-blue and Tagesschau. Thank you for that

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Harald_B
Amateur
I can totally understand that because I play in different shops every day.
There are a maximum of 2-3 days a month when it's great. On all other days, nothing happens, no matter how much you put in, no matter what bets or providers you play.
Since the casinos can set their own RTP and most of them don't even have any information about how high the RTP is, and even if they did, who can prove to me that the RTP isn't a lie?

It really has nothing to do with chance in this industry.
And it's also clear that the casino lobby bribes politicians, as there's plenty of money for it.

And nothing will ever change, you can smoke the control authorities in the pipe, they are all corrupt through and through.

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fros7byte
Amateur
Of course, this is all (halfway) legal fraud^^

Nothing has worked online for years and you can always enjoy the same video of endless dead spins with most providers. There are slots that I have played for years, I could predict certain situations with certainty, knew when 700x free spins were coming etc....The algorithm had burned itself into me.

But let me give you an example of what I experienced in the offline casino, where I played for several years: every Saturday evening, as always, you couldn't win anything, the free spins were unattainable, nobody got anything. But between 9:30 pm and 9:45 pm, there was a jerk / hang for about 1.5 seconds on ALL 30 machines in the shed AT THE SAME TIME at a certain moment. Shortly after that, at least 25 out of 30 players had free spins or wins.
I know that sounds so rigged and moronic that it must be a lie. But I swear I'm telling the truth. My buddies can attest to it.

And it's exactly the same scam online. I can spin down €10,000 on a small bet for days - which I've tested myself several times over the years - and it will never come back. But very rarely there is this short window of time when the rigged switch is turned the other way and you can gamble what you want...it all pays^^

Anyone who seriously believes that gambling today has anything to do with luck should take off their tin foil hat...

The good times, when Microgaming was in, there was halfway real chance and reputable Online Casinos were still on the rise, are LONG gone.

There used to be a casino called Rigged. I thought it was a good hint. Unfortunately, it was taken off the market xD

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Carmystica
Visitor
I think everyone is slowly realizing that something is wrong and is willing to believe it.
For a long time, people clung to the hope that they were wrong, but that's why it's called manipulation. You are simply being manipulated. The patterns and processes are simply too clear. Even the highly praised providers such as Dama are no different. I would even say that they are the best at Manipulation, which is why some people think they are so good.
They gamble with us, but we don't gamble with them. If we win, it's only because they invest in us with the intention of getting us on the hook and then squeezing us like a lemon.
I'm sure they have levers that set the gear. For example, the fishing mode, the gear that makes you think something is going on. That's the one where you win something small in almost every game you open and then you have hope and Deposit nicely there but actually they're just fishing for you and throwing bait at your feet.
Or the hard rip-off mode when you have credit and suddenly nothing works anymore, nada. There's also the land of milk and honey mode, but that's only available if you're new to the industry. Wow, everything shines and rattles properly.

I recently registered with a new Dama and every slot threw something. Most of the time it went like this: the first time I opened the game I won about 3-5 euros (with a 20 cent bet) and the second time I loaded the game I won about 25-30. That was the case with almost every slot. Incidentally, this is the case with many. Elk, for example, you almost always just have to refresh the page and the 2nd or 3rd time you load it you get free spins.
The same with Play n go. Try it out. Go to Tome of insanity, for example, and if it doesn't throw something right at the start, then reload the page 2 or 3 times and you'll get free spins.
And anyway, when you get to the dead spins, reload the game and it will start playing again. . I had the same thing with Winzjo, when I was new I checked every pushgaming slot one after the other and really everyone gave me a golden coin pretty quickly.
Well, anyway, I think everyone is starting to notice the patterns and even the last one can't avoid admitting the truth that they are being manipulated.

I think it's good that people are talking about it here because I think the more you realize that you're being cheated, the more it can help you to stop gambling. Unfortunately, you know that sometimes they open the shed for a small window of time and switch to free play and you still deposit because you're just hoping for that small window of time.
That's also a kind of gambling but through a very small keyhole.
You need luck in luck in misfortune.
You hope for that because hope dies last

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R3hab
Elite
Casinos are ultimately just a business that wants to make a profit, if they are at a point where they know that the players keep coming back, why shouldn't they take advantage of that, the state of course profits very generously and the operator doesn't want to compensate for that
Somehow it's also normal that they want big wins for themselves.

Drug dealers and casino operators are the same to me, they simply act in the same way and the German online gambling halls are simply to be boycotted and that's that
Once you're addicted, you'll take any dirt

Just like we end up playing at some casinos whose operators are real criminals and scumbags with a nonsense license with countless problems where nobody can help you

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btssultan
Experienced
In general, I would not blame the license and the casino Provider, but the ladies and gentlemen who provide the software, who are also responsible for the general gaming process and also "roughly speaking" have control over it.

Basically, it's a coincidence, but it can be set here in the backend, over period X, how much all platforms have to take together or make available again under All Slots, that's my opinion.

But as mentioned above, Pragmatic has been criticized for a long time. All Slots, whether legal or illegal, seem to open once a month and after that, you can always see the same rhythm, of course not only with Pragmatic but also with all other game providers, which is of course more noticeable as a player who plays several times a week than players who play perhaps once a month.

All software can be manipulated or adjusted accordingly, but I find it best with Pragmatic's live game shows (where a computer calculates in real time, taking into account all bets, when to slow down so that, for example, a low depositor comes up, etc., which is much more complex to describe), which are prohibited here.

My industry is resourceful and so there will always be ways to deprive players of their money without being able to prove it directly.

Can only say, play more carefully if nothing is running, then nothing is running, it's best to feel your way around and if a slot opens, then it usually runs on that day, the rest can be forgotten, nothing else like in the casino, once a month it feels like all the machines open at the same time, the rest of the days nothing comes, no matter whether on 0.05€ or 2€ bet. My how often the machines used to be refilled by the staff, almost daily and since TR 5.1, you hardly see any refills on site, there is already a system in favor of the operators.

So enough conspiracy theories, either you live with it or you don't, unfortunately nothing will change, even if you could prove it, it would probably be blamed on a system error.

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Zock1967
Rookie
i can only agree with ....dem.
After 38 years of "gambling" both offline and online, you gain experience and become more sensitive to strange processes.

Of course, it's the game providers who probably have the opportunity to "design" the games in consultation with the countless casinos.

Their programmers have built in their little doors that nobody knows about.

The licenses cost a lot of money and that's all the GGL, MGA etc. are interested in.
The dubious rest doesn't bother them.

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